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Pruning 3 year old seedless grapevines

17 years ago

I did a lot of reading about pruning before buying my 3-year old, fruiting size grape vines. I understand the whole concept of pruning, except what to do this first year. Each plant is about 3 feet tall, came with well-established roots, and have about 2 dozen buds on each. They pretty much look like sticks with a couple of branches. I'll be having growth all over the place soon and I need to know what to prune and what to keep this year.

I'll be trying to train them up to a wire about 6 feet above ground. If I just select 1 cane to grow until it reaches the wire and prune everything else, it seems I'll miss out on a lot of fruit this year. On the other hand, letting more than 1 cane grow at this height doesn't seem right, unless I can do it just for this year to get more fruit.

I know I've done a terrible job describing this situation, so here's a picture. Thanks to anyone who can help!

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/Tom_in_TN/3-19_0008.jpg

Comments (6)

  • 17 years ago

    Tom, forget about fruit now and focus on training. Prune back to just a few buds and let only two shoots grow, one being a backup. Once you have one shoot tied up so it won't break off you can rub off the backup shoot. The one shoot will hit 6' this year. If you leave a lot of low stuff your one main shoot may not hit 6' and you get to start all over next year.

    Scott

  • 17 years ago

    I couldn't get your photo up but agree with Scott 100%. Assume this vine has well established roots in a pot. That is a lot different than in the soil. If you go for fruit this yr you might a few nice size bunches or a lot of little worthless bunches. And it will cost you much more than that down the road. Do what Scott suggested on training this yr.

    The Fruitnut

  • 17 years ago

    There is a book I found called "The Grape Grower: A guide to organic viticulture". It has pictures that show exactly what the vine is supposed to look like every year and why you train it that way. The reason I mention the book is that it says the same thing that Scott said about needing the main vine to reach a certain height the first year or you have to start over the second year. I bought the book this spring because I'm starting to grow grapes this year and the very detailed pictures and explanations look like they will be a big help.

  • 17 years ago

    All I can say is I let my concord vine fruit whenever it wanted, grow however it wanted, and it has both taken over my shed and blessed me with more grapes than I can use, all in short order. I planted 1-foot plants and got a large yield my second year (don't remember if I got anything the first year). It's been in the ground about four years now and yields about 4-5 gallons of grapes per year. And the thing has a trunk the size of a small tree. The only downside is it's been shading out my strawberries ;)

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks to all of you. I'll go for the training this year, as suggested. I've got tons of buds already, so I'm off to an early start.

  • 13 years ago

    Grape newbie here; Based on what I'm reading it appears there is no benefit in buying a 3yr old grapvine as opposed to a 1 or 2yr old one as no matter what it is unlikely to bear much fruit. Am I understanding correctly? Is this because when you buy them much of the old wood has been cut off so no 1 yr old wood to produce fruit? What does a 3 yr old grapevine look like when you buy it? Are they pretty much grown in pots so have a shallow root system and is that why you can't expect fruit the 1st yr you plant a 3yr old grapevine?