Semi-circle cut is a classic Plum Curculio scar.
-Glenn

This forum needs updating and stickys... The same questions get asked a million times. I'm sorry, but its true :) The site has more ads then the Las Vegas strip!

Yep, looks like the picture of the three on the right:

http://www.ipm.msu.edu/fruitpests/plumcurculio.htm

ok. More bug spray I guess.

thanks for the info.

brian

Brian-
Stay away from the Bonide Fruit Tree Spray and related products. If you're not sure what to spray, let us know where in zone 5 you are, and people will be glad to help you out.
-Glenn

Glenn-Can you tell me why not to use Bonide Fruit Tree Spray? And what do you mean by "related products". What are the alternatives? Thanks.
Ben
Beach Park, IL zone 5
near the IL-WI border, 2 miles west of Lake Mich.

The stuff in the fruit tree spray isn't there in enough quantity to do much of anything against anything. And the stuff in the fruit tree spray is not effective against curculio even if it was in a higher concentration.
I guess Captan isn't effective against cedar apple rust but the Bonide magically claims it is in the the fruit tree spray.

My personal issue with the fruit tree spray is that it marks not only my Cortland and McIntosh but my Arkansas Black.

I imagine by "related products" he means other versions of "do all" orchard sprays.

Imidan (if you can get it in a quantity you want to deal with) does a good job or Triazicide (available at Walmart, Lowes, Menards, etc) does a fair job against curculio.

Hi Ben-
My paragraph below says basically the same thing that myk1 said. [I'm reposting it from an older thread... or 2... or 3]. Let us know what diseases and insects you're trying to fight, and many people here will be happy to help you fight them effectively.
-Glenn

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Many people on this forum (and I can now add myself to this list) are not big fans of all-in-one fruit tree sprays. The reasons are:
1.) The quantity of some of the ingredients is often insufficient to actually accomplish the task. Take for example the quantity of Captan in there. Many people here have argued that it is not nearly the strength required to be effective. Compare the quantity in there with that on the plain Captain container.

2.) In the all-in-one spray, you are often spraying chemicals that you do not need, for pests and diseases you do not have.

3.) The all-in-one says it controls things that it does not. It says it controls Cedar Apple Rust, but with itÂs only active fungicide being Captan, it can not, as Captan does not control CAR.

WhatÂs the alternative you ask? Identify your pest and your diseases and treat them individually. If you know those, let people know what they are. In some cases, you can even use things that are considered organic (Copper is often considered organic) to fight a very nasty diseases. Bagging your apples is another option to protect your fruit from insects. Finally, if all that fails, there are the effective sprays but theyÂre not the Bonide (or other mfgr) combined fruit tree sprays.
-Glenn

Glenn and myk1 - Thanks for clearing that up. What can I do with the bottle of Bonide I bought for "the just in case moment"? Oh well, live and learn.

I'm a big fan of the all in one products, especially Bonide Fruit Tree Spray. Around here, in southeastern NY, it's what the big tree care companies used to use to protect apple trees. This gave me an opening for my business. All their failure to control insects and disease made me a hero and a word of mouth based business success.

I knew that's where that was heading when I saw you were a big fan. :)

I must admit that was my first foray into spraying and I went from no apples between curculio, codling moth and apple maggot to having quite a few. Mainly because what the curculio and codling moth don't get the apple maggot has 2 months to finish off and my apple maggots are wimps, I still use malathion for them.
But like I said it marks all my bearing apples so they were far from keeper perfection.

It's the lack of CAR control that really makes it useless here, that and it's needing to be applied weekly. What does it have in it for insecticide? I've never read the label on the stuff.

Same here Harvestman. The insidious thing is that it says it protects against CAR, and instead leaves you wide open to it. Grrrrrr!

It's got small quantities of Malathion, Sevin, Carbaryl.
-Glenn

I don't see how it would kill PC consistently if the labeled rates don't match the labeled rates of straight Sevin or Malathion to deal with this insect. A combination of the two wouldn't increase the efficacy of using one or the other. The only reason I can think of for combining them is that Sevin is not too hot against aphids.

I guess Mykl's right that he got some efficacy because it works against AFM which for some reason haven't showed up around here- I can't figure out why. Should have showed up somewhere in all the orchards I manage. It's one of the pests that nearby commercial growers contend with.