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Starting Flooded Engines

18 years ago

Yesterday, while mulching leaves with my Lawnboy 10301,

I ran out of gas, (it's amazing how much more gas mowers

use when mulching leaves). After it cooled down I filled

the tank and it started right up, but stalled out in a

short time. It would not start again, so assuming it was

flooded, I took out the plug and flicked a Bic lighter

near the plug hole and the usual blue flame shot out.

Then I dried out the plug using the lighter. Put it all

together and it started right up. I have been using this

method on flooded mowers ever since I was a kid, when an

old timer showed me the trick. I was wondering how many

of you, out there, use this method and how many of you

think it is an extremely dangerous thing to do.

Comments (7)

  • 18 years ago

    Never heard of that one. Could be inviting danger but more than that isn't it easier to just pull the mower through a few strokes to clear it out instead of going for the plug wrench?

    I'd put the Bic on a plug in a heartbeat, but not on the plug hole. Just once with a little spilled fuel or the cap not on tight would be a lesson I don't want to learn.

  • 18 years ago

    It doesn't take much of a "poof" to end up without eyebrows.

  • 18 years ago

    Your description of the mower starting after filling the tank and then going dead shortly later doesn't indicate a flooded condition. Anyway I tend to come in on the conservative side of this one and cast my vote against your lighter procedure as being on the dangerous end of the spectrum. A truly flooded engine would not be un-flooded by that procedure anyway. A few pulls at wide open throttle would get a mildly flooded engine going most of the time.

  • 18 years ago

    I have noticed similar effects from a CD pack which was getting too weak to fire dependably or a spark plug that was dirty or old. A cheap fix could be simply trying a new plug or installing one every year as recommended. No, I would never apply an open flame to a mower in that way, particularly just after fueling. Like they say, better safe than sorry in this instance.

  • 18 years ago

    Gentlemen, allow me to make a few comments in my defense.
    First of all, there is little chance of me singeing
    my eyebrows because I don't put my face anywhere near
    the plug area, as there is sometimes a very violent
    'pop'. In this case I didn't beleive the mower was
    flooded either, but pulling the plug confirmed I was
    right. When I do this 'trick' it is never in or near
    any buildings and I always plan an escape route
    just in case, but then I do that whenever I'm performing
    ANY repair, because you never know when something unexpected will happen. And lastly, I make sure there
    is no raw gas on or near the mower and always sniff
    for fumes. Sure I could have left the plug out and
    come back in an hour and accoplished the same thing,
    but rain was quickly approaching and I only had a little
    mulching left to go. I have found this method is a really quick and easy way to get back to the task at hand and have
    been using it for almost 50 years with great success.
    Having said all of that, I would like to end with a
    thanks to you all for making very legitimate comments
    since I respect your opinions, or I wouldn't be on
    this forum in the first place.

  • 18 years ago

    I have to admit I have done similar things myself. I may even try your lighter trick...who knows. Many years ago the only way my brothers and I could start a Westbend 2 cycle go-kart engine was to unscrew the plug and put a good squirt of Ronson Lighter Fluid in the hole, replace the plug, and pull the starter. It usually resulted in an 8 inch flame thrower out the exhaust pipe just before it started. So...lbpod, I'll give your method a try next time.

  • 18 years ago

    An escape route is pretty much irrelevant given the instantaneous nature of most explosions. Raw gas won't be the cause, but fumes from gasoline or something else could be. It is not something I would try and I've been working on motors for close to the half century mark too.

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