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Multiple ID's please

16 years ago

This is a shrub that I'm trying to bonsai but I can't remember what it is.


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These are plants I collected from the woods (my property). Are both of these Indian Cucumbers? Last year the 1st pic was ID'd as Indian cucumber but looking at pics online it looks like the other is Indian cucumber. I know the plant in the 1st pic has a white tuber but can't remember if the other one does as well.


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The next 2 are the back and front of leaves on the same plant. Is the 3rd plant a ramp? It has a white bulb but I never checked if it had an onion scent.


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A ground cover type plant with small shiny heart shaped dark green leaves towards the left side of the pic.


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Last one.

Thanks


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Comments (11)

  • 16 years ago

    Shrub looks like Serissa foetida.

  • 16 years ago

    I think that could be Indian cucumber - it definitely has the habit of it, although more leaves than one usually sees.

    The leaf with the purple back is Tipularia discolor.

    The groundcover type plant looks like Mitchella repens.

  • 16 years ago

    Saltcedar Serissa foetida sounds right, maybe Mt. Fuji. Esh ga thanks for the other 2 ID's. A hardy orchid is the last thing I would have guessed for that leaf. Are both plants Indian Cucumber? The plants are similar but definitely not the same. Pic # 3 is one plant, 4 & 5 another. Any guesses on pics 8 & 10?

  • 16 years ago

    3 certainly looks like what I know as Indian cucumber root, Medeola virginiana. 4 and 5 seem to just have more leaves and looking at google, I see plenty of leaf variation.

    Here is a link that might be useful: google pics

  • 16 years ago

    I guess you are right. There sure is quite a bit of variation. Not only in the number of leaves but the texture, shape and sheen as well. Thanks again for the ID's.

  • 16 years ago

    Karyn1,

    The one purple leaf looks very similar to the Aplectrum hyemale, Adam and Eve orchid, aka puttyroot orchid that I'm sending you and I see it is also native in your area.

    Hopefully I will get to see mine in bloom this year and get pics.

    #8 looks like it might be the foliage of a native iris cristata that has not been grown under the best of conditions. Does it maybe have long white 'running' roots, sort of like lily of the valley has?

    Sue

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks Sue. I don't remember about roots but I do remember it had a smooth white bulb that looked kind of like a scallion. It looked a lot better before I dug it up. lol

  • 16 years ago

    I have putty root too; that picture is classic Tipularia discolor. They have similar looking roots, btw.

  • 16 years ago

    If there is a difference in the plants you think are "indian cucumbers," one could be a star flower (Trientalis borealis) and the other could be indian cucmber root (Medeola virginiana). I have found them both growing in the same locations so it is possible. I've included pictures I took of both plants growing in the same preserve.

    Indian Cucumber Root:

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    Star Flower:

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    Esh may have id'd your groundcover for you. It does rather look like Mitchella repens. It too likes the same locations as the previous two plants I mentioned. Here's some growing quite happily in the same preserve as the other pics I included.

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    And the one that looks like a ramp, does look like a ramp.

    FataMorgana

  • 16 years ago

    FataMorgana I think you nailed it. I'll wait for blooms. I am familiar with the Indian cucumber flowers so I'll see if the other plant has different blooms. Does ramp foliage have an onion scent or just the bulb? Any guess as what the plant in the last pic might be?

  • 16 years ago

    Bruised ramp foliage does have that characteristic onion-like smell. If it doesn't smell like onions or garlic, it is probably something else.

    The last one looks like it is young and its leaves are just unfurling. Give it a little time and it may take on a more characteristic look. Immature leaves and/or just emerging plants are often more difficult to ID.

    FataMorgana