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Need help with Rose Hedge

17 years ago

My dh and I are looking to plant a very long rose hedge of own root Hyde Hall roses. This rose seems to be the tallest, thickest and hardiest pink hedge rose we could find. We're going to buy the roses from Heirloom Roses here in Oregon but are uncertain how to figure out how many roses we will need. David Austin recommends planting the roses 18 inches to 3 feet apart but because we are buying own root roses, not grafted roses, we were told that we should plant the roses 5 feet apart because they have a 5 to 6 foot spread. That seems way too far apart because we want a thick hedge, so we're not sure what to do. This is a big purchase and we can't return roses we don't use so any help is appreciated. TIA!

Comments (10)

  • 17 years ago

    I don't know 'Hyde Hall.'

    Bein' you're in Oregon, though, I'm surprised you're not using rugosas for hedging.

    I've seen some pretty nice rugosa hedges, used between the campsites at Champoeg State Park, and there are incredible rugosa hedges at Sunset Cliffs -- in that big garden which was a stately home?

    The most magnificent rose hedge I have EVER seen is one that must run for at least a quarter mile -- kept trimmed perfectly, and yet blooming, at The Hermitage -- Andrew and Rachael Jackson's home, East of Nashville, TN.

    Jeri

  • 17 years ago

    I suggest you e-mail Heirloom nursery, because their nursery is in Oregon, and tell them your concerns.
    -you'd like to buy as many 'Hyde Hall' rosebushes from them, in order to plant a (give number of feet long) hedge and first need to know
    -how wide 'Hyde Hall' gets to be,
    1. once mature
    2. as an own-root plant
    3. in your part of Oregon.
    and if they would please
    A. give you a reccomendation for spacing 'H.H.'close enough to make a hedge.

    Luxrosa
    4.75 feet would be my guess, for H.H. in Portland.

  • 17 years ago

    Anita, that picture is magnificent! I wish I had room for something like that. I just love Rugosas. Do you know which one that is?

    Thanks,
    Joanne

  • 17 years ago

    It looks like the species rugosa to me. R. rugosa and R. rugosa alba.

    There are hedges like that in Maine, too.

  • 17 years ago

    If I were planting a hedge of the same variety, i.e. very densely planted monocropping, I would get the most disease resistant variety I could. Monocrops are sitting ducks for disease. I don't think of any of the Austins are truly extremely disease resistant. Rugosas make a lot more sense to me. There are lots of smashing rugosa "hedges" next to highways and freeways all over the Portland area.

  • 17 years ago

    You might also ask them how a Hyde Hall hedge would compare to a rugosa hedge. My understanding is that Hyde Hall is somewhat different than most Austins we think of. HH is very disease-resistant, 5-6 ft tall, very hardy, and is supposedly a great hedge rose. I can see why you are interested in it--lovely pink blooms.

    Wish I had experience with it. I remember a couple years ago wishing I had a place for a hedge row of HH. Unfortunately, I don't. : (

    Good luck. A rugosa hedge would be nice also.

    Kate

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks everyone for all the replies! I came by and read the replies the other day but this is the first time I had a chance to post.

    We went and bought the Hyde Hall roses yesterday and hope to get them in the ground in about 10 days or so. We bought enough to plant the roses 4 feet apart, which seems to be a good compromise. I will try and remember to post a photo or two in the coming months on the progress since there is not much info on Hyde Hall and maybe it will help someone else looking for a tall rose hedge. :)

  • 16 years ago

    sorry for posting on an old thread, I wonder if vintagegarden can share some experience on the Hyde Park after the first year?

  • 8 years ago

    @vintagegarden - so how do you like Hyde Halls in the hegde? Would you be able to share a picture..thanks!