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Fruitless, flowerless chokecherry?

18 years ago

I planted two canada red chokecherries about three years ago. While they established quickly and have grown like crazy, neither has ever produced flowers or fruit. Does anybody know why this might be? My soil does have some slight acidity.

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  • 18 years ago

    BTW, these are clumped Canada Red Chokcherries. I planted them when they were about ten foot tall. Now they are well over fifteen foot.

  • 18 years ago

    You'd think they would've be that size but apparently not.

  • 18 years ago

    Are they getting enough sun (6 hours or more)?

  • 18 years ago

    Maybe still a bit too young? Give them another year.

    Resin

  • 18 years ago

    Both receive full sun all day long. They were purchased from a reputable local nursery. Does anybody know of cultivars that are non-fruit bearing? Maybe in an attempt to prevent black knot?

  • 18 years ago

    No. 'Canada Red' is the name of a cultivar. Unfortunately, Bailey nursery is using it as a common name on their web site now. Maybe you encountered purpleleaf seedlings being grown as 'Canada Red' (that cultivar being the seed parent) or under Canada red (as a common name). Seedlings could take much longer to flower than vegetative propagations (clones).

  • 18 years ago

    The only argument there bboy is that it leafs out green and then turns purple by late summer, as opposed to retaining its purple foilage throughout the season.

  • 18 years ago

    If it is not behaving (growing leaves of the proper color, etc.) like the advertised characteristics of 'Canada Red', then that is an argument for it to be a seedling rather than for it to be a clone and have been grafted. Can you check down along the trunk and see if there is a graft union- a thicker area on the trunk, probably about 1-3' from the ground? If there is a graft union, then there may be a problem - IF it had been grafted, the top seems to have died, and what you have is the under-stock, which is probably seed-grown. If there is NO sign of a graft union, then the tree is on its own roots, and may have been grown from a rooted cutting of a 'Canada Red' (I don't know how easily chokecherries root, so can't say if that was the favored means of propagation), which has reverted to a more green leaf color OR it may be a seedling from the proper 'Canada Red', but it didn't inherit ALL the characteristics of its parent. Since I assume the true tree is a selection from other purple-leaved chokecherries rather than the result of a breeding program, it would make sense that the leaves of seedlings would be variable.

    Hope this hasn't left you more confused - let us know if so, and someone will try to be more clear than I just was.

  • 18 years ago

    Just saw the message about the chokecherry. My chokecherry tree (multi stemmed) is about 20 feet tall, 8 years in the ground and flowered for the first time this year. However, my tree has maroon leaves. The nursery tag called it a "chokeberry" but I should know better than to listen or depend on nursery information because this tree does not fit the description of "chokebery". It fits a little better in the chokecherry catagory -- except it has maroon leaves. So what is this tree?

  • 18 years ago

    Purple-leaved chokecherry.

  • 18 years ago

    ellieohio, can you describe the flowers and perhaps provide a picture of the leaves if you want it identified?

  • 17 years ago

    Chokecherrys are nearly impossible to grow as cuttings. So the red leaved varities are usually seed grown (they are true to seed unlike most other prunus species). The leaves are supposed to be green in the spring, that's how this culivar growns. Once mature the leaves turn red (purple is an overstatement - maroon may be better). Maybe it's grafted though and this may be inhibiting flowering. Maybe it's a different clone that IS sterile and must be grafted.

    Mine produce flowers and fruits (that the birds clean up completely). The flowers are very fragrant!

  • 17 years ago

    Wait for some more years...
    These are the Schubert Chokecherries..it seems Bailey made a new name again for themselves
    which makes it harder for some folks to get information on it, and makes people think it's a new cultivar,... I call this a scam!
    I have this one too and never seen them loaded with berries.

    Konrad

  • 17 years ago

    My tree blooms profusely and never sets fruit. I would love to get fruit. Someone suggested pollination might be an issue. There are other trees of this type around the neighborhood, but not close by. The leaves are green at first then turn maroon and stay that way all season.

    Years ago, lived in Northern Minnesota where wild chokecherries are common. The fruit is a small, bright red, sour cherry with a large pit, which makes a good jam or jelly. Those trees had green leaves only.

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:331046}}

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