Hi Robert-------The Albertine that I have in the sun grows very rapidly----

I planted two Albertines between two trees and hung a chain between the two trees---wanted it to look like a big arbor---
this area is quite shady----They are growing but much slower than the one in the sun----
the bloom was OK this year and the leaves look good---I didn't get a picture this spring.

the one in the sun gets so big that Bob has to climb up on the roof to prune it.
Here is the one in the sun----LOL
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Florence

Florence,

I'm so glad you responded. I had moved one of my Albertine's from a "death area" to a prime sunny spot with supplemental water. In the move, however, I had thought I had lost her, so I picked up another from Sherando. Well, the first has produced all new leaves, so I have this second one to plant, and I have a spot I'd like to try her that gets some shade.... It must get enough sun though because the wisteria near it looks wonderful. I'll give it a try.

btw, you are responsible for enabling me on this rose as well as Viking Queen which is another awesome rose.

Robert

Robert - I grow Albertine in an area that gets morning sun 8 -9 am until about 1 or 2 in the afternoon and it has gotten large (~ 10 w X 6 d X 6 h) in a period of about 4 or 5 years w/o the best care. My experience is that most climbers will do pretty well with as little as 3 or 4 hrs sun, but not as vigorous as with more sun and perhaps a little less bloom. It may take some additional time to grow to the size you want, but most of them will give you a good show - particularly the vigorous once bloomers. - Best

Robert----I hope to get some good pictures of the two in the shade next spring---they are growing OK only much much slower than the one in the sun----

I was checking my VQ the other day and I would say that root area is in total shade---poor baby---I can't imagine how big she would be if her root area was in the sun------Same thing with Paul's Himalayan Musk-----roots are in a very shady tree
Here is Paul-----a true survivor

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BTW---my garden sure is a mess right now--LOL
I would not want the "rose police" to visit------LOL

Good Luck with Albertine-----great rose.

Florence

Florence, I think your garden is carefree and romantic. Your
choice of roses for a mostly shady garden is perfect. Viking
Queen, Albertine, Paul's Himilayan and Constance Spry are very
shade tolerant. Even Golden Celebration is supposed to have
good shade tolerance. So you have made glorious choices for
your garden and your pictures show that. I think that your
roses reflect how beautiful you truly are Florence.

MAY YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEAUTY BEFORE YOU!

Devon--------You always say the sweetest things---You made me happy tonight

Thank You,

Florence

Florence, Are you still there? Knock, knock......my Albertine is not winter hardy here in zone 6a, planted it last fall, all the canes had winter die back, ony has about 5-6" left, I guess there won't be any blooms this spring since it blooms on old wood. Do you think it might be hardier when it's older? Or I have to move it to a different spot away from the chilly wind.........does yours repeat for you? Love your photos!

@summersrhythm_z6a- has your Albertine improved its hardiness with maturity any? Mine didn't die back its first winter and I got some blooms last spring and then it GREW. I'm curious to see how it fares over the course of this winter.

...I miss Florence too...

Steven

Mine has been long gone due to mice damage. :-(

@summersrhythm_z6a oh, I'm very sorry to hear! If mine doesn't look dreadful come spring, I'll share pictures of it!

***The first few blooms I had possessed a light, fresh scent and seem to shatter easily if handled.

Steven