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clematis and roses..help

20 years ago

Hi all,

Im planning to put a couple of roses against my house and I have NO idea which clematis would look best with them. One is Don Juan http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?i=A1570&tab=1 and Awakening http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=465

any ideas would be most appreciated.

Mari

Comments (18)

  • 20 years ago

    Mari..I would recommend pruning group 3s...A lovely white or pink would look nice with Climbing Rosa "Don Juan"...Some nice whites would be:
    John Huxtable
    Huldine
    A nice Pink would be:
    Comtesse de Bouchard
    Awakening is a white climbing rose isn't it??.A seedling of "New Dawn"?..
    Maybe some reds?? Of those you can chose:
    Barbara Harrington
    Avant-Garde is really nice two toned
    Duchess of York
    Gravetye Beauty
    Lord Hershell
    Miniseelik
    Mme Julia Correvon
    Rouge Cardinal
    Ville de Lyon
    Voluceau
    Mikelite
    or Maybe some purples?

    Arabella
    Etoile Violette
    Venosa Violacea
    Jackmanii
    Lady Betty Balfour
    Polish Spirit
    Royal Velours
    Star of India
    Victor Hugo
    Perrins Pride
    Gipsy Queen

    Hope this helps...Jeanne

  • 20 years ago

    Jeanne thanks.

    Awakening is a double sport of New Dawn and has the same pink color.

    Comtesse de Bouchard is pink???? Mine is a light blue..maybe it is mislabelled?

    Mari

  • 20 years ago

    No trace of blue in my CdB.

  • 20 years ago

    Nope Clematis "Comtesse de Bouchard" is definitely pink...you can post a pic and we can try to id it for you??..Here is mine...Jeanne
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  • 20 years ago

    Really nice Picture Jeanne - I really like the white trellis - for some reason I think they look the best with the clematis - as they really show them off. Your CdB is goreous!!! How many years old is that one? Golden

  • 20 years ago

    Golden..Thanks..Actually my Clematis "Comtesse de Bouchard" is planted with my Climbing Rosa "New Dawn" that is housed on my Umbrella Trellis that I bought from J&P last year...I planted both in the Spring of '2005 so it's year two for them...the lattice Panels are screwed onto my old wooden fence and YES , I have clematis growing on that too!!..I agree..WHITE really makes things pop out in the gardens...Jeanne
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  • 20 years ago

    Well it looks lovely! I guess you bought the plant at a reasonable size. I buy a few in the larger pots but because I wanted so many I bought alot in the smaller size too - which takes alot of patience which I dont have - lol. I guess I will just have to learn! By the way what is that black thing in the back of the Cdb?

  • 20 years ago

    Not really ..it was a one-gallon..do you mean the black that is in a circle at the top?..That is what the Umbrella Trellis Looks like before the Rose fills it up and grows over the top which it is doing nicely now..Climbing roses in my opinion don't come into their own till year 3 and these are doing well for having been a bare root last year
    Here's how the 2 puny things looked when I planted them last year..LOL..I was so proud I took a pic!!
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    And here's a full shot from then
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    and today!
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  • 20 years ago

    I guess you just have a green hand - lol. Very nice! Ive never seen an umbrella trellis before? Your back yard looks really nice and neat - thanks for sharing Golden

  • 20 years ago

    Wow! I have my Comtesse de Bouchaud growing up a trellis with New Dawn rose too. Every year I wonder whether I'd like it better with a stronger color clematis, but every year I decide I really like the subtle combination. I added Dr. Ruppel to the mix, but I worried that two clematis is too much for one rose to handle, so this year I removed the doctor. Of course, this is the year that New Dawn really took off (thanks to the good advice from the Rose forum people) and I'm rethinking that decision.

  • 20 years ago

    Ophelia...Using pruning group 3s will allow you to plant more than one clematis with such a vigorous climbing rose such as "New Dawn"..I am seriously considering adding another pruning group 3 to the other side of mine!!..Maybe in a dark purple or another Venosa Violacea!...I have two VV's now and can't seem to get enough of their beauty...I mean they get pruned back down..so how can they overwhelm the rose?..Just enhance her beauty..whatda think?..Jeanne
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  • 20 years ago

    Jeanne - I wouldn't dare. I have an Etoile Violette that COVERS its obelisk every year. No way New Dawn's leaves could peek out from under that bush to get ANY sun whatsoever. I'm sure it would die under there. If I were to replace the Dr. Ruppel, it would be with a weaker grower that wouldn't overpower the other two plants. Maybe part of the problem is that my trellis is narrow, so all the plants have to fight it out on maybe 2 feet of space. I really need to get my husband to show me how to post pictures on GardenWeb. Things look really nice now. I have a brand-new VV myself that I'm hoping will give me at least one bloom this year.

  • 20 years ago

    Ophelia, here's a link to tutorial that will show you step by step how to post a picture: Pooh Bear's Tinypic tutorial.
    If you are going to post more than a few pictures it might be better to open a free account at photobucket.com. They have excellent tutorials. Here's a link: Photobucket tutorials.
    Give it a look. We would enjoy seeing your pictures and it's really very easy after the first.

  • 20 years ago

    Ophelia..Do you have a site where you put your pictures?..Because you need to have a place so you can "link" them to here...I know over at Thegardenforums.org you get 100 MB of free storage in your own Garden Gallery if you are a member..then you right click on your pic and then click on properties and then copy and paste on here in this "" right after the = Sign...hope this helps...Jeanne
    There should be a space between IMG and SRC and the should be right next to IMG and the end of the URL..had to put it that way so It would show!!

  • 20 years ago

    Here is a photo of my Etoile Violette (I hope it works)covering its 7 ft obelisk except for the very top, which it will also cover eventually this year.

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:600949}}

  • 20 years ago

    Let's see if I can post a photo within my message. If it works, this should be Comtesse de Bouchaud and New Dawn.
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  • 20 years ago

    Those pics are stunning all!!!

    Here is my maybe Comtesse.
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    mari

  • 20 years ago

    How wonderful!!..Loved the pics!!..Jeanne

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