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Looking for Long Needle Pine Tree

19 years ago

I'm trying to find a long needle pine tree to plant on a northeastern corner. The area I'll be planting the tree is by the Jersey shore so it gets pretty windy in the winter. I'd prefer a smaller tree to a tall wide tree but I'll look at all the options.

I found this website with some fantastic photos of pines taken at Washington Square Park in Manhattan and was wondering if anyone can identify the second photo from the top left.

http://www.pbase.com/hjsteed/foliage_pine

Thanks!

Comments (20)

  • 19 years ago

    Answering first question (long needled pine for Jersey shore) maybe Japanese black pine.

  • 19 years ago

    The pics on the link are a mixture, including (in order of decreasing needle length):

    Pinus à schwerinii (a hybrid between Pinus strobus and Pinus wallichiana)
    Pinus nigra (European Black Pine a.k.a. Austrian Pine)
    Pinus thunbergii (Japanese Black Pine)
    Pinus parviflora (Japanese White Pine)
    And also some labelled 'pine' which are not pines at all!

    If the pics were individually numbered, it would be easier to point out which is which, but they aren't.

    Resin

  • 19 years ago

    If you can find a Sciadopytis (and can afford it!), it will be beautiful.

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you for all the information. I've looked up the trees you have all suggested and they are great choices. I also recently came across Pinus Pendula Mexicana but somehow I doubt that'll grow in my zone.

  • 19 years ago

    the Pinus koraiensis family of plants has long pendulous needles ....

    as do the Pinus ponderosa family ....

    unfortunately they are rather large plants in time.. unless you find some dwarfs .... check the ACS website for such ....

    Google and hit the IMAGES button in google for pix ..

    good luck .. ken

    Here is a link that might be useful: find the data base ....

  • 19 years ago

    Hi Ken,

    Thank you for the link. It's a great site with lots of educational information and great photos. I spent half the morning navigating it.

  • 19 years ago

    i cant think of anything better to do in the dead of winter.. you are welcome.. ken

  • 19 years ago

    Since the five-needled pines are doing well there (parviflora, strobus, wallichiana, etc - ) and considering you want a more rounded yet wider tree, then I'd certainly consider Pinus cembra.

    Here's a link: hort.uconn There are also cultivars that have specific characteristics and I'll include the ones I've photographed as well.

    Dax

    Plain old Pinus cembra photographed at Bickelhaupt Arboretum:
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    Pinus cembra 'Chalet' - The Harper Collection, Tipton MI
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    Pinus cembra 'Chalet' needles - The US National Arb, Washington, D.C. (May):
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    Pinus cembra 'Silver Sheen' (Harper) just a comment from me, I think this cultivar is one of the very best if not the best of all Pinus cembra...
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    A young Pinus cembra 'Silver Sheen' US National Arb (May)
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    Pinus cembra 'Glauca' - Quad Cities Botanical Center, Rock Island, IL
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    Pinus koraiensis (QC Bot)
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    What a beauty! The underused PINE in American Landscapes according to a friend, and I'd certainly have to agree.

    You might also try a cultivar of Lodgepole Pine / "Shore Pine" (hint hint) called 'Taylor's Sunburst' which is an amazing tree. Here's a link to one:
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    Coenosium Gardens - Golden Conifers

  • 19 years ago

    I re-read and now see those photos aren't from an area near where you'll be planting. Here are several I think you'll find choice:

    Dax

    Pinus thunbergii 'Pygmaea' (Sold as P. thunbergiana 'Pygmaea'):
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    Pinus thunbergii 'Thunderhead'/'Angelica's Thunderhead' (Usually sold as P.thunbergiana 'Thunderhead':
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    Pinus strobus 'Golden Candles'
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    Pinus nigra 'Hornibrookiana'
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    Pinus densiflora 'Pygmaea'
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    Pinus strobus 'Bennett'/'Bennett's Dragon Eye':
    Needles and Tree:
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  • 19 years ago

    OK...I need to admit it...I officially have CONIFER LUST!

    :)
    Mark

  • 19 years ago

    no kidding! that thunderhead is just gorgeous!

  • 19 years ago

    That's what I thoght "ademink". The perfect choice for their situation.

    Dax

  • 19 years ago

    Wow Dax,

    What an amazing list with photos you've provided! So impressive. This is great, I can spend this cold month making decisions and learning all about these conifers. They are truly beautiful. Thank you so much!!!

  • 18 years ago

    I have many long needle pines called Loblolly pines.
    The needles are 8 -9 in. long. It is a tall tree, not wide.
    If you'd like to pay just shipping, I would carefully dig and bareroot 2 or 3 for you to try. They are very beautiful trees. I would send ones about 3 ft. tall.

  • 18 years ago

    You willing to do this for more people too? Hint hint.

  • 18 years ago

    Might be a good idea to consider Pinus jeffreyi 'Joppi.' Beautiful long needles. Great plant habit.

  • 18 years ago

    Can you tell me a little more about this Pinus Pendula Mexicana that you have come accross? Can't find any reference to such a tree and as I collect weeping conifers would like to locate one. Thank you

  • 18 years ago

    "Can you tell me a little more about this Pinus Pendula Mexicana that you have come accross?"

    As you suspect, there's no such thing. Probably a fake name invented by a nurseryman; my guess would be Pinus patula.

    Resin

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you Resin. Patula is what I had suspected, but am willing to be proved wrong.

  • 18 years ago

    No one suggested Pinus palustris. I'm also at the Jersey Shore at the southern end. I planted this tree as a seedling in 2000. It came from Fairweather Gardens who said it was of VA provenance.

    It's close to 20' right now and amazingly beautiful. It's far better looking than the pic from the natl arboretum. No cones so far but it's stunning and the only one in town (Cape May).

    Pinus palustris is used in planters outside the Philadelphia convention center!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Pinus Palustris in Washington DC