need problems diagnosed on Echeveria please

15 years ago

I bought about 7 new babies last month and here they are at the beginning (except for the two on the bottom right, they are mine for a long time, plaantlette and cuttings...)

The one that I'm killing the most is the Echeveria 'Perle von Nurmberg' (3rd row back in the middle, with pink and grey leaves)its lower leaves have shriveled and are rubbery, limp loosing their tightness.

On the updated photos this isn't as far as the damage went, I could not document them today as my camera is w/o batteries now and this is the lastest pics I have.

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here is one with ugly brusing on it the

'Little Jewel' Pachyveria glauca

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I know the title here is concerning Echeveria's, another Echeveria I have e. ramillette' I dont' have an updted photo of is having similar problems with lower leaves. (First row left). Notice also how its leaves practically touch the soil. I had similar problem with the Kalancho Flap Jack with its very low leaves (at top of picture) but set a rock under its lowest leaf and have had no further incident.

Could this be a problem of water on leaves and leaves sitting on soil? Would bottom water be suggested for these types? They sre all in 3" clay pots now and the water really runs through them fast so I'm sure we can rule out perched water.

TY,

One other thing, if I could detain one a moment longer. I need an ID on the bottom corner right one. I've been successful with many cuttings from it but don't have an ID.

Micki

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ggarner
15 years ago
What sort of sun are these guys getting? E. PVN, E. Ramillette, and P. Glauca in my experience thrive in direct sun all day long.

From the looks of it the P. Glauca does not have a whole lot of color, and neither does the PVN.

I have never had any issue with leaves that contact the soil, how often are you watering? If these plants are inside I would guess they probably only need water every 14 days or so. If they are outside in full sun, maybe 7-10 days?
micki
Original Author
15 years ago
Watering about once a week when soil is completely dry.
Brightest part of a SW window in 3 " pots.
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cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
15 years ago
Micki,

The Pachyveria 'Little Jewel' shows overwatering damage / wrong soil. It likes it on the coarse side.

The first plant looks OK to me, but it could be suffering the same thing. Other than the dusting taken off of the leaves, what problem do you see? (that dusting won't grow back, which is why you shouldn't touch the leaves of these plants - it doesn't kill them, btw, as they'll naturally die as the plant grows)

There's a Pachyphytum (a genus, as you know) glauca, there's a Pachyveria 'Little Jewel' (a cross between a Pachyphytum and an Echeveria), and it looks like one was involved as a parent in the making of the other, but there's no such plant as Pachyveria glauca, 'Little Jewel' or otherwise.
micki
Original Author
15 years ago
Okay, I'll be looking into the coarser mix as you know. Everything else has done well. Do the Pachyphytums and Echeverias need a coarser mix than all the others here? These 3 are the only ones seemingly damaged by handling or over watering. The problem I don't have documented on the first one is the lower leaves basically shriveled up, not completely but got very limp as well on their way out, so I cut them off today.

You know far more than I might ever Jeff. The name that I listed here I copied from the tag that came from the whole saler cactusconnection.com and here's another link that uses that title: http://www.etsy.com/listing/81411446/pachyveria-glauca-little-jewel-succulent
You are very smart to understand the crosses of the two genus' to get the different species, so thanks for pointing that out. Tags aren't always right nor are whole salers. Have a good night,
Micki