pcan,
That is a beautiful tree. How do you get a tree like that with no plant tag? Where did you find it? Fess up!
Congratulations. I think this forum is creating a monster and I will enjoy watching your garden grow!
Barb

I found her at a local nursery Wasatch Shadows (between work and home very dangerous). I waded through many many trees and found her and one other hidden amongst a bunch of other types of conifers. I asked what she was and how much. They told me they thought she was a weeping white pine and charged me for the size of the pot 2 gallon.

Nice tree!

I wonder if they meant to say a weeping white spruce.

sluice, I really have no idea. I can tell a blue spruce and alberta spruce from other conifers, but that is about the extent of my naming knowledge lol. The people at the nursery (young girl that I don't know I would trust) said weeping white pine, but it had no tag. :( Please tell me if you know what it really is.

BTW, the branches are very stiff.

looks similar to a weeping norway spruce, definitely not a pine

After looking into it a little more I think I may be in a little trouble.

The folks at the nursery said it would grow about an inch a year. But I found pictures on line of a weeping Siberian spruce that looked much like my little conifer and they say they grow a foot a year. If so it may need to be placed in the back where there is more room.

bunkers, I was typing my post before I read yours. Yes it looks much like the weeping norway spruce's I googled.

The folks at the nursery said it would grow about an inch a year.

====>>> then why is the leader 6 inches ... and it looks like the year prior, more than that ...

very simply.. pine have very fine needles ... this does not ... making it a fir [abies] or a picea [spruce] ... if not something else .. probably going to need a closeup of the needles for the sperts ...

google images this: Picea engelmannii 'Bush's Lace'

and check the link

otherwise i will leave ID to the sperts ...

it will be a beaut ... give it some space ...

did you get a bargain??? if so.. you got a great source for plants .. but i question their knowledge base ... lol ... next time.. ask them some questions you know the answer to so as to check them.. and find the manager ... perhaps you were not speaking to the person with the real knowledge ...

and now you are seeing the beauty of learning the latin .... dont fight it ... though i do understand a newbie MUST rely on tags as a place to start ... one thing for sure.. you have a great 'eye' for the rare ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

Sluice is right - looks indeed to be (a great cultivar!!!!)

Picea glauca 'Pendula' - and it will live a very long time where you planted it. Not the best location being's so close to your home but, this is a very narrow tree.

Picea glauca 'Pendula' at Rich's Foxwillow Pines Nursery:
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Dax

Hi pcan, Sluice and Dax are right, definitely Picea glauca 'Pendula'. Once established, they grow pretty quickly. I planted mine about 8 years ago, when it was not much bigger than yours. It regularly gets 16-18 inches of growth per year and has a 6-7 ft wide skirt on it. Great conifer, congratulations on your purchase! Here's a link to some pics from last year to let you see what it will look like in 8 years.

Dan

Here is a link that might be useful: Picea glauca 'Pendula' 2010 (pic1,3,4,5)

I knew I could get the information needed on this forum. Thanks everyone!

Yes it does appear to be Picea glauca 'Pendula', but I will post some close ups of the needles to be sure tonight.

It looks like the spot I placed it in may only be temporary. I think it may go much better in the conifer bed in the back with lots more space to grow. It will be a nice accent.

I'll see about moving it this weekend.

compare last years leader growth on yours and mine ... go figure on that ...

the pic plant is heavily frosted ..

ken
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Nice looking plant Ken! It looks as though they don't need staking to keep their upright growth so i think I will removed the stake.

Beautiful find!!!!

There were 7 of these in late November at our local Lowe's here in Indy. (Yes, I'm positive).

They were (get ready) on massive clearance for $7 ea. They were already 6' tall. I almost had a heart attack!

I talked myself out of buying all of them b/c I am literally out of room but now am kicking myself for not getting at LEAST one!!!!

I'm constantly amazed at the ability you dudes have to identify trees from pictures or vague descriptions.

1. How did you know it was a weeping Picea Glauca and not a weeping Picea Abies or some other spruce?

2. Why is it that the very same people who have the ability to identify even very rare cultivars at a glance also have nameplates on their trees? This has always struck me as incongruous.

A very nice find, pcan. I knew at once that it wasn't a pine, but other than that... Enjoy your new tree - the second of many, now that your addiction has really taken hold of you. :-D

Why is it that the very same people who have the ability to identify even very rare cultivars at a glance also have nameplates on their trees? This has always struck me as incongruous.

Just guessing here, but I believe it's called the pride of the collector.... And I don't mean that in a bad way. Also, the labels are probably there for the rest of us poor fools who come to oohh and aahh over their gardens without a clue as to what cultivar the plant is. Plus, if you have over 500 specimens in your yard, like some of the folks here do, I bet even the experts can lose track of what they have and need a bit of a memory jog!

Holly

No comment - lol. ;-)

Dax

Hey now, I may not know the difference between a Pine and a Spruce, LOL but noone can run a better irrigation ditch system then me. LOL. If you all need to know anything about running an irrgiation ditch system, you just let me know.

I'll be waiting for the questions. Ha! :)

Why is it that the very same people who have the ability to identify even very rare cultivars at a glance also have nameplates on their trees?

===>>> for me.. that is how i learned the latin names ...

also.. when giving tours ... and your mind blanks out once.. then all is lost.. easier to have them labeled ...

anyway .. when you get to 500 conifers.. good luck remembering them all ...

i used to say with my hosta.. a $500 hosta w/o a name.. is a $5 hosta .... yup ...

its abut time you fessed up on calling it a pine.. lol ...

ken

When I get to 500 conifers...well, I suppose my wife and her new husband would appreciate the nametags, but I don't know that I'll be able to see them all the way from the curb.

You people must have very understanding spouses.

I have an understanding spouse, but not 500 conifers. Maybe that's why she's still understanding. If I had 500 conifers I might be on the curb with you, Snowden, trying to ID stuff from afar by shouting things at the house like, "Hey, are those bundles pubescent?" Hmmm, that might sound bad to the neighbors.

tj

I once asked about where to get nameplates on here and was mocked for doing so. And truth be told, I need the plates to remember whats what. Anyways, some friends have given me trees with plates on them and those are my most special ones!

I once asked about where to get nameplates on here and was mocked for doing so.

That is just wrong! If you are still looking for good labels, Dax turned me on to a place after I saw the labels in this post by Will: Picea abies photo gallery 2010 and asked about them. The place is Kincaid Gardens; here is a link to the the site; I ordered the 10" labels: Plant labels I ordered them on Friday 3/25 and received them on Monday 3/28; pretty impressive,I thought. With these plant labels and a Brother label maker, you are set! And the heck with those that think labels are superfluous!

Holly

rofl tsuga!!!