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confirm spelling and 10 year size

ok joy.. this is your chance to check them all [and anyone else of course.. ] ...

BEFORE they go onto the database..

BEFORE i make the tags..

BEFORE i make the labels.. and

BEFORE i label 200 pix with the wrong names ...

PLEASE HELP ... all mis-spellings are probably my chicken scratched notes from tags ...

and the numbers beside them.. are the estimated 10 year size .... anyone care to argue over those.. or are they what they are ... personal experience appreciated .... ???

ken

Abies amabilis 'Spreading Star' 1 x 4
Abies arnoldiana 'Poulsen' 1 x 4
Abies koreana 'Blauer Pfiff' 5 x 2
Abies koreana 'Gelbbunt' 5 x 2
Abies koreana 'Green Carpet' 1 x 4
Abies koreana 'Lippetal' 3 x 1
Abies koreana 'Nadelkissen' 1 x 1
Abies lasiocarpa 'Glacier' 2 x 2 ?
Abies nordmanniana 'Golden Spreader' 2 x 3
Abies procera 'Blaue Hexe' 1 x 1.5
Abies procera 'Delbar Cascade' 6 x 2.5
Abies procera 'Hupp's Single Snake' 6 x 3
Abies veitchii 'Pendula' 9 x 3
Abies veitchii 'Rumburk' 1 x 1
Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Melody' ???
Fagus sylvatica 'Aurea Pendula' 6 x 2.5
Fagus sylvatica 'Dawyck Gold' 10 x 2.5
Fagus sylvatica 'Dawyck Purple' 10 x 2.5
Ginkgo biloba 'Majestic Butterfly' 6 x 3
Metasequoia glyptostroboides 'North Light' 3 x 3
Picea omorika 'Pendula Major' 3 x 5
Picea orientalis 'Nutans' 8 x 4
Picea pungens 'Ruby Teardrops' 2 x 3
Pinus aristata 'Joe's Bess' 3 x 2
Pinus banksiana 'Schoodic' 1 x 4
Pinus contorta 'Chief Joseph' 4 x 2
Pinus mugo 'Fastigiata' 9 x 3
Pinus mugo 'Ophir' 1.5 x 1.5
Pinus mugo 'Zundert' 3 x 3
Pinus parviflora 'Ogon' 6 x 3
Pinus ponderosa 'Dixie' 2.5 x 2
Pinus schwerinii 'Weithorst' -- switch ie? 5 x 3
Pinus strobus 'National Life' 4 x 3
Pinus strobus 'Niagara Falls' 2 x 4
Pinus strobus 'Vercurve' 4 x 3
Pinus sylvestris 'Nisbet's Gold' 5 x 3 ?

Comments (15)

  • 13 years ago

    I didn't realize you had 'Hupp's Single Snake'! That's one I've been eying.

  • 13 years ago

    you just keep your eyes in their sockets.. and your hands in your pants ... [???]

    you can see it when you come over for spring flush ...

    or this week if you are off school.. and in the 'hood.. and its a nice enough day to walk around out there.. unlike today with the wind....

    ken

  • 13 years ago

    Ok Ken, I only check the names for you, not the sizes.
    Here we go:
    Abies amabilis 'Spreading Star' = right

    Abies arnoldiana 'Poulsen'
    = Abies x arnoldiana 'Poulsen'

    Abies koreana 'Blauer Pfiff' = right
    Abies koreana 'Gelbbunt' = right
    Abies koreana 'Green Carpet' = right
    Abies koreana 'Lippetal' = right
    Abies koreana 'Nadelkissen' = right
    Abies lasiocarpa 'Glacier' = right
    Abies nordmanniana 'Golden Spreader' = right
    Abies procera 'Blaue Hexe' = right

    Abies procera 'Delbar Cascade'
    = 'DelBar Cascade'

    Abies procera 'Hupp's Single Snake' = right
    Abies veitchii 'Pendula' = right
    Abies veitchii 'Rumburk' = right
    Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Melody' = right

    Fagus sylvatica 'Aurea Pendula' ???
    Fagus sylvatica 'Dawyck Gold' ???
    Fagus sylvatica 'Dawyck Purple' ???

    Ginkgo biloba 'Majestic Butterfly' = right

    Metasequoia glyptostroboides 'North Light'
    = 'Schirrmann's Nordlicht'

    Picea omorika 'Pendula Major' = right
    Picea orientalis 'Nutans' = right
    Picea pungens 'Ruby Teardrops' = right

    Pinus aristata 'Joe's Bess'
    = Pinus longaeva 'Joe's Bess'

    Pinus banksiana 'Schoodic' = right
    Pinus contorta 'Chief Joseph' = right
    Pinus mugo 'Fastigiata' = right
    Pinus mugo 'Ophir' = right
    Pinus mugo 'Zundert' = right
    Pinus parviflora 'Ogon' = right
    Pinus ponderosa 'Dixie' = right

    Pinus schwerinii 'Weithorst'
    = 'Wiethorst'

    Pinus strobus 'National Life' = right
    Pinus strobus 'Niagara Falls' = right

    Pinus strobus 'Vercurve' = right
    'Vercurve'/'Tiny Kurls': two names for the same plant.

    Pinus sylvestris ''Nisbet's Gold'
    = 'Aurea Nisbet'

    Well, you did a good job in writing all these names, most were correctly written.
    I only had to correct a few and Fagus is not my kind of field...

  • 13 years ago

    I'll wait a few weeks 'till stuff starts pushing, Ken, then I can do another photo journal of your place and make you try to ID all your stuff by photo only! =P

  • 13 years ago

    Pinus mugo 'Fastigiata'

    ==>> is that right.. or do i have an extra I in there????

    should it be fastigata????

    and.. pronounce : 'Wiethorst'

    as in VEET-horst???

    as compared to Y-horst???

    thx

    ken

  • 13 years ago

    Ken, 'Fastigiata' is right.

    'Wiethorst' is pronounced as Weet-horst...

  • 13 years ago

    missed one: Pinus contorta var. latifolia 'Frisian Gold'

    some google with the var. part.. other w/o .. same on chief jo ...

    you said chief jo OK w/o the latifolia part ... what about this one ...

    now joy... i am using my polish background.. where v sounds for w..

    so to be clear.. for 'Wiethorst' is pronounced as Weet-horst...

    you are using a W as a W .... none of this eastern European pronunciation ..... right???

    apparently no one has any experience with any of these on the size estimates... pity .. and all i am asking.. are any grossly out of sync ????

    ken

  • 13 years ago

    Ken, it's the best way to write it as Pinus contorta 'Chief Joseph', because if you will use the var. latifolia part, you also have to use the natural variety names for some other conifers as well:
    Like Pinus mugo var. rostrata ''Fastigiata'

    Pinus mugo var. pumilio 'Ophir'

    Pinus mugo var. mughus 'Zundert'

    The Dutch folks will pronounce the W as a W, weetjewel ;0)

  • 13 years ago

    'Wiethorst'

    well.. to my eye.. this looks German .. and they use the Vee ...

    so you did get to the root of the issue.. its a dutch name ... not german ... so a W .... cool

    OK.. so we either throw in all the var's.. or we leave them all out.. i favor leaving them out ...

    ken

  • 13 years ago

    Anymore my easiest and probably most correct solution(in terms of percentage of the time he's correct) is to simply go to Edwin's conifer 'assortium'.

    I know of no one else in the conifer industry do obsessed with correct naming/history/punctuation for all conifer cultivars and his list covers about 3/4's of all of the plants I label.

    On another note, are these newer plants Ken? A lot of them are recent introductions and if you have older plants I would absolutely LOVE to see a few dozen photos.

    -Will

  • 5 years ago

    Ken, I know this is an 8 year old post of yours but may I ask how some of the Abies on this list held up over the years? In particular the Abies veitchii and Abies procera. Im in a suburban south MI climate so not too dissimilar from yours. I have clay soil so plant most on a mound of sandy topsoil. I would like to try the Hupp's snake but fear it would not survive long term. I planted a Abies veitchii 'Pendula' on a site with good drainage yet it surrendered in short order. It has left me to wonder if its worth given another one a second try.


  • 5 years ago

    Thank you that is good to know! Yes I have little bit of a suburban microclimate and slightly milder winter from proximity to the great lakes. Still I think I better not throw any more $ at another veitchii.

  • 5 years ago

    What do you mean , the garden is GONE ?

    I'm bumbed out

    ron

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    As am I…but I suspected as much. So sorry Ken. Message me.

    tj