Zsolt,
look more Pinus mugo than Pinus sylvestris for me.
Clément

Looks like it may have the pointed umbos of P. uncinata.

There are only Pinus sylvestris forests around, and not planted. Other solutions? Anyway, I will like it as uncinata or mugo, too...

Zsolt

Just another finding

Picea abies ÂMPH VersegÂ

This beautiful natural dwarf is about 25 years old, grows 1/3 as usual, and part of an allee from a forest nursery seedling team. Has a compact dense branched habit, and ideal for making a garden christmas tree, planted in front of the living roomÂs windows. This grows to a conical tree, which is not needed to be cutted yearly. 4 meters high. Trimming only if needed.
I know, that also in the States are working christmas nurseries on great fields, where big growing trees are trimmed with a lot of work. This one here is a more simple solution.

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Breeder/Found me 2010
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Zsolt

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Last week I was in Szombathely HUN, took part the yearly meeting of the Western Hungarian Nursery Society, where the Conifer Tresury 3.0 2010 was first introduced. In a nice village I met a strange giant dwarf Picea pungens. I made some photos, and shown to Tóth Gyula, the Âhungarian conifer ceasar". Gyula told me, he is also looking this one since 20 years, but till now had no decision, weather this one will work good. In the middle there are dried branchlets, possibly this could cause later some problem. Maybe, if we cut from the top, we could have a nice new cultivarÂ
This is an adventure, how to bring out this aged beauty a wealthy nice new plant. Any suggestions, Friends?

Anyway, this plant is a menber of the series of Picea pungens in Hungary, which are first pendulous, than blue or green, and give a sight as of they would be columns.

Picea pungens ÂMPH SzilsárkányÂ

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Introduced by my pinetum next year
Description as you see, 5 meters high at age of 40-50 years

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Zsolt

Agree with Pinus mugo for the first plant, probably the natural introgression Pinus mugo nothosubsp. rotundata (P. mugo subsp. mugo à P. mugo subsp. uncinata).

Source? Maybe a windblown seed from someone's garden, or maybe a stray plant mixed in with P. sylvestris plants from the nursery supplying the motorway landscaping.

Resin

Pineresin,
this is my problem, too. The Motorway was cutted into a closed sylvestris forest without planting. I hope in a good soultion.

Till that I have an other surprising find for today.

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I used to find new conifers with my eyes, learned from Barabits. You can learn it too, you need just opened eyes to forms, colours, and an ability in recognition to unused things. These are the most important thing to be a breeder. A breeder in much more, like a planter. She/he is a culture historist, or culture engeener, who lives with the nature, and able to form it. Not to defeat, just take out the loveable plants from the forests, and take them to the gardens.

This giant seem first to be an old spruce of habit, but its a giant arborvitae (Thuja plicata)

Thuja plicata ÂMPH IstenfaÂ, as the tree of the God in the ancient Eurasian religions. Grows to the sky, where he meets his God.

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Description as you see, 20 meters high at age of 40 years

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Zsolt

Zsolt,

Those are some nice trees. I especially like the 'VersegÂ.

Here is a Picea engelmannii dwarf found growing in the mountains.
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Nate,
you found a nice greeny Engelmann spruce. What about giving her a name, and bringing down it to the gardens... It's a bigger wonder, as you should have found a blue one. Try to capture her unusual unique character with a femal name in any context.

Zsolt

New introductions should always be determined to be a definite departure from existing cultivars before being named and put into commerce.

Bboy,
I agree with you, but first I'm going to recognize the character in itself. As a breeder I have to see into the character, to give the right name. Later commerce can do, as it's usual. If you have big enough books, it is not problem today to state what is the difference from other existing cultivars.

Look at here, please.

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I found a greeny-goldie sport on an old Taxus baccata ÂOvereynderiÂ, which is usual very dark green, but in 1860 in Holland this was selected only by his erectus form. Since 150 years I never heard any cultivars made of this plant. This happy coloured sport could have a chance in the future: the known form is given in a more pleasant and friendly appearence. Maybe this is on the halfway to success.

Taxus baccata ÂMPH ZöldikeÂ

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On the border of the sport and the deep green parts
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Zsolt

Zsolt, that's a nice sport. The engelmann has been named 'Lucky Charm', provisionally?, and is currently under trial.

Nate,
the trialing can take a long time
I was "trialing" the following engelmanns more than 20 years, but was only waiting, weather they will be usual blue ones. They don't want it...

Picea pungens ÂGolyó with the meaning ÂBallÂ
Published 2010 Mesterházy in Conifer Treasury of Hungary 1.0
Breeder/Found 2009 Mesterházy Zsolt HUN of Den Ouden seed
Introduced 1984 Mesterházy Pinetum, Erdõtarcsa HUN, 2011 Tóth Gyula Nursery Gödöllõ, HUN
Description A natural blue dwarf globe of seed of the Engelmann spruce.

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A graft of the previous mother plant named by Orlóci, László as ÂLabdaÂ, which means also ÂBallÂ
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Picea engelmannii ÂNefertitiÂ
Published 2010 Mesterházy in Conifer Treasury of Hungary 1.0
Breeder/Found 2009 Mesterházy Zsolt HUN of Den Ouden seed
Introduced 1984 Mesterházy Pinetum, Erdõtarcsa HUN, 2011 Tóth Gyula Nursery Gödöllõ, HUN
Description A dwarf blue pyramid for Queen Nefertiti, 1 m in 25 years.

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Picea engelmannii ÂVízcsepp as ÂWater DropÂ
Published 2010 Mesterházy in Conifer Treasury of Hungary 1.0
Breeder/Found 2009 Mesterházy Zsolt HUN of Den Ouden seed
Introduced 1984 Mesterházy Pinetum, Erdõtarcsa HUN, 2011 Tóth Gyula Nursery Gödöllõ, HUN

Description Blue dwarf waterdrop with light purple colour, 1 m in 25 years.

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I guess, seedling's trialing could keep a long time from the seedbed.
Who has no 20-30 years to wait, could select 'ready' plants.
You are lucky with your engelmann, it's ready after her age about 30-40 years.
Sometimes its much better to find a 'ready' WB too, this needs no 20 years in the waiting room.

Zsolt

Zsolt!!!!!

The best things you have going there are the sport and the engelmannii's and possibly that Picea abies. The rest of them I would say are not cultivar material at all.

Running to duck!

Dax