If the roses grow big, and the herbs also grow big, expect the roses to atack you if your attempting to get in between them and the herbs. Roses tend to attract aphids, and that can give you aphids everywhere else. Using things like systemic insecticides or fungicides cannot be used around herbsm byt roses will be protected. Simply keep herbs grouped without having non edibles nearby. Many herbs do blossom, so you wil have some nice surprises, but also keep in mind te mature sizes of herbs and if they are annuals or perennials.

Roses also tend to attract whiteflies...at least in this part of WA. BTW I've never heard of a zone 3/4 here in WA?

Medicinal and tea could really be one and the same depending on how they are used/prepared and some tea herbs are used in cooking as well....ex. Monarda fistulosa is used both as a tea with calming qualities but can also be added to cooking as a replacement for oregano.
I don't grow any annual herbs here except German Chamomile, but what is perennial here could very well be annual for you, however not exactly sure how much harvest one would get the first year especially in zone 3/4?

You might want to find a list of annual herbs and perennial herbs that can be grown as annuals by classification (tea, medicinal, culinary, ect. Also consider soil type, and placement of herbs for dry and moist...grouping dry lovers together and water lovers together.
Most importantly, be sure you understand the use of herbs as there is a safe and non-safe way of using any herb, including those not intended for medicinal use.

Here is a link that might be useful: Using herbs safely

It gets down to -20 F almost every winter and several times has gotten down to -27 F. This area been recorded as the coldest overnight temperature in Eastern Washington before. Even colder than Deer Park! On the gardening maps, we're shown as being zone 6, which is not even close. Are you in the Spokane area?

I live south of the Mica Freeman area, along one of the creeks, and it gets really cold, especially out in the wind. I put the zone 3/4 because it's zone 4 by the house, but I don't plant anything less hardy than zone 3 away from the house. Also, I've found that many "zone 4" plants only go down to -20 F. It all depends on where you're getting the plants.

I haven't noticed any white flies so far, but maybe I've just been lucky. There's got to be a trade off for these cold winters :)

Zoning map does not tell you how cold it can get in the winter and how warm/hot it gets in the summer. Basically it is determind on the length of growing season, that is from last frost(spring) to first frost(fall). For example, general atlanta GA area is zoned 8 and so is Seattle WA. But Atlanta(where I live) has far warmer summers, persistently, than Seattle(where I visit my releatives).
Although there is a corelation between the length of growing season and spring/summer degree-days, but the corelation factor can vary.

I find herbs from Richters are quite cold hardy. They are based in Canada near Toronto. If you get really cold winter temps, I would look for herbs that are not only cold hardy but from cold places. I find that the plants I've gotten from nurseries in zones warmer than I am don't fare as well as the ones that are from the same or colder zones - even if the plant is suppose to be hardy in my zone. Just my $.02 for winter hardiness...

For roses, go with some nice rugosa roses. They need no to minimal trimming and are more polite than other roses in that they naturally form a more bush shape rather than rambling all over. And yes, what herb garden is complete without a rose?

If you desire, there are also antique roses like the apothecary rose that would be welcome albeit far less polite than the rugosa. Bigger hips on the rugosa and the rugosa has better cold-hardiness too.

I like to look at formal, planned gardens but it's not my style. I like to do more natural styled plantings. But everyone has their own style and gardeners are artists that paint in petals and leaves.

FataMorgana

It's been a few years and I've planted dozens of roses and a LOT of herbs! :)

I don't have any current pictures, since my husband has been sick and in the hospital for almost a year...but he's back home now and I'm planning my new garden. I had to swap our office and master bedroom (due to his initial limitations coming home) and I really like the new space. But, it looks out over a weedy area that I'd like to make into a new garden.

We already ordered a few roses and I want to add fragrant herbs and flowers. Something romantic and lovely, but also slightly wild and old-fashioned. Kind of a rustic/romantic combination. So the back of the garden is our huge lilac hedge (planted by my husband's grandmother) which give us great protection from the wind. I'm hoping to be able to include zone 5 plants here, with little or no winter die back.

The space is about 20' x 20', but could be smaller. I'd like to include a small seating area. There are sheds on one side (to the left) that I'd like to partially cover with the roses and some other vines. Clematis and honeysuckle do well in our area, but annual vines don't have a long enough frost-free season to bloom.

Any recommendations? This will get mostly east light, with some west light in the afternoon. The sheds are not tall, so the right side of the garden will also get some south light. All my gardens have Hidcote lavender, so I'm sure I'll use some here, as well. We have wonderful soil, so almost anything will grow as long as they don't mind cold winters, evening humidity (creek behind house) and clay soil. We live on the edge of the Palouse and have horses, so the soil is really nice and even the weeds grow large and bloom well! LOL

Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions :)

This is an older picture, but this is what it looks like today...
{{gwi:329681}}From Lavender's Garden

And the garden space is on the other side of the sheds. We'll be clearing out the debris, but you can see how pretty the lilacs are when they bloom!

The house in the background is our old farmhouse. Our view from the new bedroom location is to the right of the sheds, with only the edge of the sheds really noticeable. {{gwi:639029}}From Lavender's Garden

The other side of the house is where the bedroom used to be...and looks out over the fairy garden. Beyond the fairy garden is the kitchen garden (work in progress) with the arbor. {{gwi:765150}}From Lavender's Garden

And these are the roses my husband got me for my birthday...pictures are not mine.

Bonny, a climbing rose to screen the shed... {{gwi:328376}}From Lavender's Garden

And Rhapsody in Blue.. {{gwi:327704}}From Lavender's Garden

Most of my other roses are old-fashioned damasks, gallicas, shrub roses, rugosas and Canadian hardy roses.

For herbs, we have the lavender, bee balm, coneflowers, salvias, sages, culinary herbs, mints, pretty much anything to use and/or keep the deer out of the gardens :)

I love winter. It is such a quiet time to plan next year's gardens! Beautiful pictures!

FataMorgana