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pawpaws and papayas....help! confused!

Yes I've tried looking through threads about this; it didn't help and just confused me more. So please don't refer me to them; this is preemptive. I apologize if this comes off as rude, this isn't my intent.

This post is for future reference; know I can't grow any tropical fruit tree where I live, as it's too cold where I live, and my growing zone isn't high enough.

NOTE: With the variety I want to grow I'm NOT referring to the paw paw that is grown in areas with cooler and milder climates. This will also be posted later in the post as well for a reference, so as not to confuse ppl; basically to provide clarification.

I am extremely confused about paw paws and papayas.

Are paw paws just papayas called by another name?

Or are paw paws and papayas two seperate varieties of fruits? Could REALLY use clarification with this please!

The paw paw varieties I've managed to find are those that would grow well in cooler states that have cool climates with short growing seasons (like mine).

However this is what is confusing me.....

Apparently there are two varieties of paw paw, and they are... (the reason the scientific names are there is to differeniate between the two). Yes, they're similar; NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PLANT!

Asimina tribola- paw-paw; it's commonly grown in cooler areas in the midwest and up north.

Asimina Tetrame-This is known as smallflower paw paw. It's native to Florida.

With growing them....

NOTE: With the variety I want to grow I'm NOT referring to the paw paw that is grown in areas with cooler and milder climates.

With the smallflower paw paw, is it really a paw paw? If so, then would it be suitable to be grown in Florida (or other southern states.....Alabama, Georgia, etc.)

Between the two listed above, if the second variety listed is really suitable for areas with hot and dry climates, I'd like to grow it in FL.

Comments (10)

  • 14 years ago

    You pose an interesting question. My first reaction was no, papayas and paw paws are completely different, no relation, but lo and behold, there is some relation. Paw paws are a temperate tree while papayas are strictly tropical. However, according to the Wiki, the carica papaya is often referred to as a paw paw even though they are distinctly different. I have papayas in my backyard but have never grown paw paws, which need a lot of chill hours, not usually experienced in my zone. You learn something every day.

  • 14 years ago

    Actually, the early settlers in my area ( from the wilds of NJ, for the most part) did call the small wild papayas paw paws, which confuses me, too.

  • 14 years ago

    Agreed - 'pawpaw' is another so-called 'common' name for papayas, but there IS a true pawpaw tree as well.

  • 14 years ago

    They are entirely different plants. I didn't know that papayas were called pawpaws either. It is probably a case where someone saw a papaya and it reminded them of a pawpaw. It's like how a rose apple isn't really an apple.

    The kind of fruit you get in the grocery store is a papaya (apparently also known by some as a pawpaw.) It is tropical. There are several varieties.

    The there are several closely related species of true pawpaws. Some of them tolerate more heat or cold than others. The genus is Asimina. The native Florida pawpaw seem to be difficult to locate commercially.

  • 14 years ago

    There are actually 8 species of pawpaw (Asimina spp.) native to Florida. Most of them don't usually attain tree height. The common pawpaw tree that people usually think of as being further north (Asimina triloba) does grow in parts of the Panhandle.

    There seems to be several theories surrounding the origin of the name "pawpaw" - I've seen some sources that suggest that the name originated with papaya, and later got misattributed to Asimina due to some superficial similarity of the fruit (although I don't think they're very similar).

  • 10 years ago

    Based on some old reference I read once, the term 'paw-paw' was the origin of name for the papaya (or any other close looking fruit). But, that name, 'paw-paw' came from the sound the fruit makes, when it hits the ground after ripening.

  • 10 years ago

    Is there a good source for native paw paws?

  • 10 years ago

    There was someone selling native paw paws, Pietro's Paw Paws or something like that, but I tried to get in touch with her a year or two back and didn't ever get any response.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Lukas Nursery has a bunch of smallflower (the larger plant) and bigflower (the smaller plant) paw-paws and they came with an instruction sheet that gives that Pietro's Paw Paws name on it too.

  • 8 years ago

    I see this posting is over a year old, but if anyone is still interested, my son grows paw paws in Tennessee and he likes to discuss them. His facebook page is @therivergardensparta.