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Fruit vinegars

17 years ago

This is probably a stupid question but ....

I made some fruit vinegars this year. One batch of strawberry vinegar, one batch of raspberry. The strawberry ended up aging in two separate jars, the raspberry in three jars. I mixed the fruit and vinegar and put them in jars in a dark cool room and ... sort of forgot about them :( The strawberry has been there for three months, the raspberry for two months.

The raspberry looks and smells fine (smells wonderful actually), so I assume it is, that I can just strain it and it's good to go. Of the two strawberry jars, one looks and smells fine (although when I opened the jar it seemed to release a little bit of pressure). The other jar has a white scum on the top. It smells okay, but I would not feel comfortable with it.

So, I am tossing the white scum jar. The question is - do I trust the other jar of strawberry? I am really surprised because I wouldn't have thought ANYTHING could grow in vinegar, so I assume the other jar is fine, but decided to get the opinions here.

Thanks so much,

Ann

Comments (6)

  • 17 years ago

    Vinegar is resistant to spoilage but not impervious to it. If you think about it, vinegar is a fermented product, so yeasts and molds can occur in vinegar mixtures. Wine vinegars and rice vinegars are especially susceptible because they contain proteins which make good hosts for bacteria.

    It may be there was some undetected mold in the strawberries or, because berries are difficult to clean sufficiently, there might have been surface yeast.

    I'd discard both jars of the strawberry. One is fermenting and the other may have yeast on the surface, but it could equally well be something more harmful. I think your instincts are good.

    The Extension services have this to say about vinegars:
    If flavored vinegar molds or shows signs of fermentation such as bubbling, cloudiness or sliminess, it should be discarded without tasting.

    Carol

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you Carol. That makes me very sad, but ... so it goes. At least the raspberry seems to be okay (and can I say it again? It smells fabulous!)

    I was looking forward to spinach salads with strawberry vinegar dressing during the winter, but I guess that will have to be another year.

    Thanks again,
    Ann

  • 17 years ago

    I agree with Carol, I'd dump that other jar of vinegar, even if it's only slightly suspect.

    There's always next year and now something to look forward to!

    Annie

  • 17 years ago

    I know it's frustrating. Now I sterilize everything and heat the vinegar before using. I used to skip those steps (It's NCHFP "legal" to use unheated vinegar), but after I saw little fuzzies growing in my tarragon vinegar I decided to be much more meticulous. Part of the issue for me is I was using Japanese rice wine vinegar. It's perfect for berries and delicate herbs, but with the proteins and lower acidity, it's also much more suscetible to "invaders."

    Carol

  • 17 years ago

    I did not heat the vinegar. I used the "Gourmet Vinegars" by Marsha Peters Johnson book - which I thought had been approved by people here - and it did not say to heat the vinegar. I have since read on several sites to do so, so next year I will. I also did not sterilize the jars but simply rinsed well with really hot water. Next year I will sterilize.

    I tossed both jars of strawberry and will watch the raspberry closely for any disturbing changes.

    I think next year I may have to do some herb vinegars.

    Thanks again,
    Ann

  • 17 years ago

    There's nothing wrong with "Gourmet Vinegars" per se. (I think I have that book around here somewhere.) And heating of the vinegar is not required.

    It's one of those "odds" things. Odds are you aren't going to run into problems. Some people don't like to heat the vinegar because it speeds up the steeping process. They prefer it be longer and slower because they feel the flavors that develop are more intense and complex. It's akin to bread. You can go fast or slow. Each has its advantages.

    As a compromise I've chosen to go with Carol Costenbader's method. As per the NCHFP, jars are sterilized. But while the NCHFP heats the vinegar to 190 or 195, Costenbader heats to 110, cools a bit and then uses.

    Even then Costenbader says 110 is too hard on fruit. Personally, I've not heated any vinegar for berry infusions (I do for others) and I've been OK so far. But I am aware I have increased the risk of some jars not turning out. Some day I could easily end up where you are.

    One tip from Costenbader. She does a double infusion, steeping the fruit as usual. After a few weeks, when all the flavor has been extracted, she strains it out and adds fresh fruit. You can do additional steepings if you'd like a more intense flavor. I've gotten some really terrific raspberry vinegar that way.

    Also, when the vinegar is done and strained, she heats it to a simmer before bottling, skimming any foam that may appear. During the simmer a bit of sugar or honey can be added if desired. I've been adding just a tad of honey to fruit vinegars and really like the result. Cool and then bottle.

    A very pretty presentation with the narrow-neck bottles is to cork and then dip the cork and bottle top in paraffin.

    Carol