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Elderberry

18 years ago

I just planted a Black Lace Elderberry yesterday. Hope Im not too late in the season.

Does anyone know if one is enough? Do I need more for pollination? I do have 4 other elderberries - all are canadenis, 2 spring flowering, 2 mid-summer flowering. I believe Black Lace also flowers in the spring, so maybe it and the 2 spring flowering canadenis will pollinate together.

If I need two, I have read that the Black Lace will root easily from hard wood cuttings. Does that make the cutting a separate plant? It would still seem to be genetically the same as the plant it was cut from, but does it become a separate pollinator? Thanks. Carmellia

Comments (5)

  • 18 years ago

    Black Lace Elderberry is a European elder (Sambucus nigra). I don't know if S. canadensis would pollinate or not. They are very closely related species so maybe. Our other native S. pubens (red berries) would not.

    Two Black Lace elderberries, as you suspected, will not pollinate each other as they ARE both the same plant. Often a few fruit will be produced without a separate pollinator anyway. For the moment, I wouldn't worry about. See if you can get Black Lace to grow satisfactorily first. Many people are disappointed in the performance.

  • 18 years ago

    I have had Black Lace for several years now and love it. I was surprised that it grew to 6+ feet this year. I love the purple bronze foliage and don't even mind if it does not produce fruit. I plan to take several cuttings from mine and add a few more to my gardens.

  • 18 years ago

    I wonder if that's why there are so many reports across the country of unsatisfactory growth of this plant: maybe they really like the cold.

  • 18 years ago

    Leftwood - I'm not sure the reason but all the elderberries (Sambucus) do well for me.

    I have:

    Black Lace
    Black Beauty
    Madonna - a beautiful variagated cream/yellow/green leaved variety. Dies back to the ground each year and comes full strength to 8' each year. Gorgeous!
    Southerland Gold - very, very striking lime green foliage.
    Red Elderberry - green divided leaves with fruit that appear after a beautiful, wisteria like flower in the Spring.
    Goldenlocks - This one reminds me of a japanese maple. It has the airy layered look with bright lime foliage.

    That's all I can think of right now. I know I have a couple others but the names escape me at the moment. These are my favorites anyways.

    Tj

  • 18 years ago

    Yes, there's been a recent thread in the Master Gardener's listserv on BLE and most are on the disappointed side. Sounds like it might be a little particular about siting for best performance.

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