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what got my peas?????

18 years ago

I have a mystery that I hope someone can solve.

I planted my early crop of snow peas (two 50 foot rows) on Presidents Day weekend back in February and they are doing great. As usual I covered with heavy remay and held down with rocks. I have been doing this for years to thwart the crows.

At the end of March/beginning of April (forgot exact date) I planted another 50' or snow peas and 50' of sugar snaps. They were covered exactly the same way. Because I took the cover off the first rows I put up the chickenwire rabbit fence inside the deer fence to protect all 4 rows.

The result is that over 95% of the crop was eaten by something. There are neat holes where each seed was and a few where I can see part of the remaining seed/sprout in the ground. The remay stayed in place the whole time.

As I write this I am recalling that last year something similar happened with my sunflowers. I plant my sunflowers between bean rows and use the remay cover until both are up and established. Last year I had empty holes instead of most of the sunflowers when I lifted the remay but the beans were not touched.

What in the world could get under the remay and leave such neat little holes when they take the seeds. I suspect from what I saw with the peas that they were taken just as they began to emerge. I have seen similar results when rows were not covered.

Please help me solve the mystery. Judy W

Comments (11)

  • 18 years ago

    Towhees?

  • 18 years ago

    Interesting possibility. We sure have lots of them. Do you think they are brave enough to squeeze under 5' wide 50' long remay which is anchored by rocks about every 8' along the edges? jwww

  • 18 years ago

    I've seen Brown Towhees in San Diego digging them up and leaving the neat holes so I would agree. I also had peas disappear from under my tunnels, leaving neat little circular holes. What I tried when I replanted was to cut lots of sprigs from my Red Cedars and lay them on top of the row. The birds can't see the seedlings come up or get through the cedar leaves to dig. I'm happy to report this time there is a fair number of peas and also beans up. I had to do this in San Diego also but there I used Salad Burnet plants that came up everywhere to lay on the rows.

  • 18 years ago

    Mice or voles could be the culprit. Try setting a few traps.

  • 18 years ago

    could it be arm worms or cut worms?

  • 18 years ago

    >There are neat holes where each seed was and a few where I can see part of the remaining seed/sprout in the ground>I've seen Brown Towhees in San Diego digging them up and leaving the neat holes so I would agree

  • 18 years ago

    I miss Towhees. I haven't seen one this year at my rural place in Lewis county. I have a hard time imagining them lifting up row covers to eat seed. Keep us informed Judy,
    because I'd like to know about the varmint, bird or not.

  • 18 years ago

    I just cut old fronds off of lots of ferns so i think tomorrow i will uncover my bean row and cover with the fronds and then recover. I hope that the Towhees haven't learned that remay means food below.

    The only flaw in the towhee theory is that we have had them all winter. Why didn't they get the first planting??????

    I don't see any nearby vole holes. I guess it could be mice but i don't want to set traps where I might catch a bird.

    The holes are about 3/4 to 1 inch across and 1 to 1.5 inches deep. The holes are very clean and cylindrical not sloped in. jwww

  • 18 years ago

    NOW its got my corn!@#^*!!*#!
    I planted four 50' rows of sweet corn and covered them with remay held down at close intervals by rocks. When I lifted the cover I found that all but about 15 plants were gone and there were the same neat holes that I found with the peas. I have been planting the same way in the same garden for 30 years and have never had anything like this happen until I lost my second planting of peas earlier this spring. A summer without corn... ;-(

    As a result of the advice from "hemnancy" I covered my green bean seed row with fern fronds before covering it with the remay ...... NO LOSS!!!!! I've planted another row of beans with just the fern fronds as an experiment.

    No vole holes. Towhees are around but the remay was barely ruffled and all rows remained covered. I'm not sure I can buy the towhee theory...any other thoughts? jwww

  • 18 years ago

    Do you have quail? A friend of ours is losing all sorts of seeds to them. Keep us informed, I want to hear the answer to the mystery.

  • 18 years ago

    We have quail but i don't think they could get under the garden fence and they certainly could not get under the sheets of remay without disturbing them.

    Good news is that the beans with just the fern fronds and no remay seem to be fine....thansk to "hemnancy" for the tip. jwww