Ian, One of the folks that toured my garden yesterday was a gal from down under. She just loved the eucs. and all the other southern hemisphere stuff that I grow. She said that her 5 year old E.camphora is a beauty. That's one tree I don't have in my collection. Do you grow that species, and if so what are your observations of it's hardiness in our climate? She seems to think it's quite cold tolerant. I would like to get a hold of one or just grow some from seed. Cheers, Joe