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Pauline Banyai driveway hosta growing

12 years ago

I thought some more about Ken's comments about driveway growing of hosta and decided to share what he was really getting at.

As mentioned on another thread here, my mother (the late Pauline Banyai, then known as "the Michigan Hosta lady" ) would dig clumps in early Spring, divide and then pot up those divisions for sale when they leafed out in 4-8 weeks.

The potted divisions would be placed on our driveway on the west side of the home in Madison Heights Michigan, under some shade trees.

Often there would be smaller divisions or part root clumps that she did not deem fit to pot up for subsequent sales.

Due to planting time crunch in early Spring, she would often have a few varieties that would end up on the driveway with a "small amount" (read a handful or less) of potting soil just to cover the roots to prevent them from drying out.

Hopefully in a few days we would then replant those into the garden stock plant row, but over time some of these plants were not replanted in the garden but would have to survive on the watering of the adjacent for sale pots and rain.

By June/July some of these would leaf out, start to grow and take off into regular size plants, with multiple leaves.

These piles would then become quite visible as the plants in inventory were sold and the driveway cleared up of plants.

Mom found it amusing when people would walk along the garden, then driveway and finally ask " how do these plants grow on your driveway so well?"

Technically it was a sink or swim deal for them; by sheer neglect they would either be growing or goners.

Thus they were probably so vigorous and healthy but small roots or crowns that just that much moisture and air gave them life and vigor.

Cruel? not really. After all they probably sat overnight in a weak bleach solution, so were near death from drowning anyway!! We bleached all our divisions before potting them.

Some of those driveway hosta plants lived several years in the same spot- thus came the comments about her being able to grow hosta on the driveway.

They were not something we were proud of; actually a sign of inattention.

In later years after she passed away I realized how hard it was to keep up with that short growing and selling season we had maintained for so many years. And could understand why some hosta plants grew on the driveway.

Are they that hardy? Yes, depending on their source. Obviously there is a difference with tissue culture starts and field grown divisions.

Bruce

Comments (30)

  • 12 years ago

    Interesting story, Bruce.

  • 12 years ago

    Mystery solved! Neglectful, maybe... but what a great story!

  • 12 years ago

    Great story, indeed! Evokes pictures in the mind of a sea of hosta in the middle of a driveway...your mother left a beautiful legacy behind, Bruce.
    Your own love of hosta is a wonderful connection.

    Thank you for sharing....whenever there is mention of "driveway" again, I'll be picturing that sea of hosta first, then those die-hard hosta hanging on the sidelines with just enough soil to sustain them. :-)

    Jo

  • 12 years ago

    Thanks for sharing. That's a great story.

    bk

  • 12 years ago

    I love getting the backstory...thanks!

  • 12 years ago

    Wow! Love this story! Thanks for enlightening us. All of a sudden Ken is beginning to make sense lol.
    Jan

  • 12 years ago

    Love the story, Bruce! I've had hostas growing in my yard (admittedly, not on the driveway) where they were never intended to grow. I just left them a little too long on top of the ground and they 'planted' themselves over time.

  • 12 years ago

    Great story,Bruce! But it's not unusual to grow hostas on the driveway. In this pic,you can see hostas growing on the driveway;well not exactly on the driveway) Lol! Phil

  • 12 years ago

    There ya go, uprooting a perfectly wonderful urban legend with facts!

    ha!

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    dave

  • 12 years ago

    All of a sudden Ken is beginning to make sense lol.

    There ya go, uprooting a perfectly wonderful urban legend with facts!

    ====>>.

    shall i presume you all thought i just made this stuff up ... lol ... humor aside ... i try not to ...

    bruce ..... thanks for taking the time.. from the land of oz

    the myth continues ...

    ken

    ps: embellishing the facts ... does not alter the underlying truth ... lol ...e.g. i doubt pauline got angry with them.. and threw them around the yard ... that was all me .... lol

  • 12 years ago

    Great to learn where this 'driveway hosta' story originated! I remember when I was active on the hosta forum around 2006 or 2007 that Ken's reference to growing hosta on the driveway made a lasting impression! Thanks for sharing, Bruce.

  • 11 years ago

    nice story

  • 11 years ago

    Awe - there really is a story behind the "driveway treatment" ..... and a good one, too!

  • 11 years ago

    I like the backstory too, and this was a great one! The mental images kept me grinning through it all the way! Thanks, Bruce!

  • 11 years ago

    Perhaps that is where my mother got her habit of letting some sink or swim on the driveway...LOL She would have been a customer back then. I also remember going to a house near downtown Royal Oak with her and haggling over their hostas. She was obsessed with them.

  • 11 years ago

    could the RO house been nancy krull??? .. not sure on that spelling

    ken


  • 11 years ago

    Nancy Krull lived in Utica.

    How close to downtown Royal Oak? We lived 2-3 miles east in Madison Heights off 10 & 1/2 mile rd (Lincoln) , just across the line.

    What time period?


  • 11 years ago

    I remember Pauline's driveway hostas very well and my foray into hostas began with my first hosta from her. It amazes me just how much Pauline's name still comes up at the farmers market. Along with Harris Olson (our local Mr Daylily) she long be remembered for her love and knowledge of hostas.......and more importantly for being a great lady.

    Andy Torvinen, who introduced Snake Eyes, is in Royal Oak and has a nice selection of hostas for sale. Might he be the house lizs' mom went to? The was once owned by Glen Frye, she might remember that.

    Here's my first hosta, as suggested by Pauline. H. Naikimo ( the green on on the left)

  • 11 years ago

    Oops. Let's try again


  • 11 years ago

    Pauline's influence led to my hosta obsession. Pics to prove it.


  • 11 years ago

    Don't know what I'm doing wrong. Let's try again.


  • 11 years ago

    Correction: Nancy was from Center Line or Warren, not Utica.

    Andy T. has sold hosta for sale from his backyard for several years now. He has only been doing it since about 2000?

    I recall my mother having the first Michigan hosta society meetings in our Madison Heights home living room, not more than 10 people!

    Anyone know where Gene Masta (from Royal Oak) is today?

  • 11 years ago

    when i met nancys daughter at hidden lakes ... in the 90s .. i think ...

    she took me to a house a block or two off woodward ...

    this west sider doesnt know all the little city names along woodward ... and i dont recall between which mile roads ....

    but i am positive it wasnt warren of center line

    ken


  • 11 years ago

    This would have been back in the 90's and 2000's. I suspect we went to the same house only a few blocks off Woodward and perhaps to the house Glen Fry used to own. I remember that the hosta nut at that particular house was a man. Andy sounds familiar.

    My mom was a huge supporter of the farmers markets in the area, and would go to hosta society meetings. Small world isn't it?

  • 11 years ago

    liz you have anyone out in adrian who does conifers??

    ken


  • 11 years ago

    Andy's home is close to Woodward.....and yes, he's a hosta nut! Aren't we all? A small world indeed.....made even smaller by the Internet.

    With Schmid gardens up for sale we may all be looking for new conifer nursery, so please share. Luckily Tom Schmid is still bringing in great,new stock.......for now at least. Tellys Nursery in Troy has a nice selection, but not like Schmid's.

  • 11 years ago

    Mac - love your garden, and especially the "river" of heuchera!

    I have some Gold Standard OS because my mom grew up near Pauline and her sister and has a Gold Standard from them. I bought a few hostas when I first got interested in them from Pauline's sister. (I'm not using her name for the sake of her privacy.) I remember seeing a Sagae in her yard, and darn - still wish I would have bought one back then!

  • 6 years ago

    What an amazing story! Every bit of it!