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Need help with drapes

13 years ago
The living area in my great room has 4 very tall/long windows, ceiling is 10’. I want a window treatment for the comfortable warmth it gives to a room, and I like color and pattern. I’ve chosen a vintage style bark cloth in a large Hawaiian print that I absolutely love, it makes me very happy. You can’t really appreciate the colors of the fabric in the picture, brown, grey, green and touches of red on a very soft yellow/cream background. The dark bamboo blinds go well with the dark fireplace mantel, the stair railing across the room, the large ceiling fan, and an old antique grandfather clock. The walls are a grey. The yellow on grey actually works quite well, and there are touches of grey in the fabric as well.

I would describe our style as eclectic – casual - traditional. We have a large sofa with chase which is also in the dark red. The rug will likely be replace with something more natural like a jute rug (it doesn’t work with the fabric), and I’ll add more pattern in pillows on the sofa. The wall with the windows will be left mostly free of furniture as we will be bringing in some large houseplants soon (now on the deck). The corner wicker rocker will be replaces with a large leather chair.

Now my question. I’m planning non-fictional stationary drapery panels on each side of the windows, probably pinch pleated and hanging from black rings on a black rod. The windows are not that far apart but too far apart to fill completely with the drapery panels without making the windows look too narrow. The windows are so tall that I worry that floor length drapes would all look to vertical and narrow. I’m considering having the panels only reach just below the window molding. I’ve not seen any pictures of this kind of treatment.
My original plans were to make a cornice treatment as in
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but I worried about it being too casual.

Please offer advice, suggestions, and comments. Thanks.

Comments (42)

  • 13 years ago
    Front window, two panels. Side windows, two panels with rod running all the way across the top. Make the panels nice and full to give the impression you could draw them if necessary. Don't hang anything between the windows, yet. I think the fabric framing the windows will be enough.
  • 13 years ago
    What a great idea. It might be hard to make them look full enough as there's not much wall there, but it will definetly give it a simpler and lighter look. is pleated with rings the right way to go? Thanks.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    You want to stop the curtains at the molding, not full length? No, no, no. I would definitely NOT recommend that. You need your rod installed as high as possible and your panels to come to the floor. Peated with rings is fine--I'd do a euro pleat, not a tradtiional pinch pleat. How wide are the windows?
  • 13 years ago
    I would run a rod across all of the windows as Judy stated (on which you could add as many panels as you'd like - there is no rule against a 1-3-3-3-1 pattern with the sections of 3 running from one window across the wall to the next) and make sure panels reached the floor as JMittman Designs stated. Curtains that fall short will have the look of "flooded" too small jeans... it ends up not looking intentional. :)
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    I totally agree that the draperies must start as high as possible and fall to the floor! I'd want to fill in the space between the windows with the panels, but think narrower ones could be used on the far sides of the windows.
    Carolyn Albert-Kincl, ASID
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Thank you Carolyn...yes I agree
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Hey, two great minds!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Definitely run the panels to the floor, and place the rod halfway between the window trim and the crown molding. I agree with the long rod that extends across all the windows, with the panels resting in between each window. It will really warm up the space.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Why not go to just below the crown, Gabberts? You and I usually agree.
  • 13 years ago
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    I would recommend to do for each window 1 panel wide enough to cover window (total 4) which would close (for privacy) windows all 4 the same direction, ether from left toward right side or opposit direction. Full length looks much better. The panels' length can be visually broken if you add at the bottom a solid fabric in one of the colors picked from patterned top panel, my guess gray or green. Match joint seam with window seal line or with bottom molding line for custom look.
  • 13 years ago
    I love the material you have chosen, but think it will be fabric overload!! There are a lot of windows and the fabric and patern is heavy. With that many windows if I wanted to create a softer cozier feel I would use a lighter fabric such as shear and trying to keep the same as wall color! And drapes always look best when hung from as high as you can to the floor!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    You at MOST need a solid sheer, and as much as I love drapery panels, there are instances where a different treatment simply works better. In this case, an unlined roman shade in linen, or a softer london shade on each window would add the fabric, and the softness without too much fabric. The spaces between the windows are awkward... not enough for each window to have a pair of panels, and a bit too much wall space to treat the windows as a cluster of "one". Sorry, but a linen london shade would look super, allow light, and soften, and ditch the existing shades altogether. Probably not the answer you wanted....but.
  • 13 years ago
    I agree with Jan....35 years in the drapery business and it always comes back to "less is more". Unless you are trying to draw your eye away from the light of your beautiful windows, a relaxed roman in a natural fabric with texture is what I would suggest to a client.
  • 13 years ago
    These suggestions are all wonderful, ideas I never even thought of, thank you so much for all your advice, and I love that it varied and gave me options to consider. We don't want to cover the windows beyond the blinds set up high as there is a beautiful forest view, but I find no treatments (my husbands preference) just too cold. I know my choice of fabric is unusual and maybe not be the best, but it works for our tastes.

    I may go back to looking to hiring a decorator, as you guys had such interesting ideas. But I had one horrible experience that was costly and unproductive. She was just unable to work around some non-negotiable things that are important for our functional living. That's why I hired her, needing some thinking out of the box ideas to make things work. She offered no advice other than to constantly argue against those things that were important to her style, which was not ours, refusing to incorporate some important things to us. Her advice clearly indicated she hadn't listened to us, and didn't get us and our lives and interests. She did present a beautiful plan, but it required all new and woudn't work with our life style.

    I'll post the final pics after I decide which way to go (I'm a good DIYer).
    Thanks again.
  • 13 years ago
    Such a beautiful room. I love the windows.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    sandybottom,
    I hope you find some design help. In the end it is always a clients home,but If you love your "forest view" this designer is going to tell you frankly, that you will kill that with a boldly patterned drape. You will kill it with too much fabric ...ie panels...as it is likely to read as a wall of fabric, and rather than enhance the view, work to distract. Sometimes the house is the dictator, and the designer is listening, but the client doesn't hear the house speaking. Consider that a sheer linen roman shade can be raised just as your shades are.... and softer in texture, and lighter color. The windows are "talking"!
  • 13 years ago
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    You can do it. Here are two photos of ways in which you can treat the windows. The first is running a valance all the way around the molding and another with window placement like yours. Both are great!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    judyg,
    Yes, a lovely sunroom indeed, but the windows butt closelyTOGETHER. That alone makes them easy to treat as one large window. The case of sandybottom is completely different, and the windows are far enough apart to require individual dressing....not close enough to treat as one.
  • 13 years ago
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    Hi---Great comments. If it's drapery panels you want, then you have them---it's your home. I do not think they are necessary, not with a view like that, but you did say STATIONARY panels. I suggest solid floor-to-ceiling, no pattern---nothing to detract from the view, hung on individual poles-mounted between windows. Good Luck! [houzz=
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  • 13 years ago
    JAN, I see exactly what you are saying about the valance. Windows are too far apart and I also didn't realize sandybottom was keeping the wovens. Merci.
  • 13 years ago
    sandybottom, i have a large wall of windows in my dining room and living room with a fantastic view, and wanted the warmth of the drapes on my windows but didn't want to block the view, like you. I treated 3 windows as one: one rod that extends 6-8" on each end window to allow the curtains to stack back nicely in the summer or pull each panel in between the winter to warm it up. (I actually started with 6 panels but found that was too much for 3 windows and went to 4 panels, it's perfect and you can't tell how many they are when they are stacked-it still looks nice and full.) Four panels would work perfectly for you since you have more wall space in between your windows than I do. You could stack them back on either side or use them in between the windows for wonderful pattern and color in your room (just be careful to keep everything else solid or a small print neutral). I wouldn't hang anything on the walls in between the windows if you go with a bold print. I agree with others, hang your panels from ceiling to floor. Ultimately, if you love this pattern - GO FOR IT! It's not permanent, you can always change it. (I save the packages and receipts for several months until I've lived with it and decide I love it.)
  • 13 years ago
    Green living room (judyg) is almost identical to your windows. I didn't give other options as the fabric you have makes you happy, that is important. I suppose your space is quite large, but keep in mind that a large scale pattern and matte fabric generally make a large room cozier and can create a lovely atmosphere rather than impersonal, however in small space it can overpower the room.
  • 13 years ago
    Love the fabric. Like all the drapery suggestions. If you do decide to go with cornice boards, you can make them more formal by the shape you choose. They can be constructed to fit around the sides of windows as well and have lovely curves in them. See http://www.houzz.com/cornice. They can also be used in conjunction with full-length draperies, as one of the photos shows. I think this combo dresses up full-length draperies even more.
  • 13 years ago
    I also have a room with a large wall of windows-no space inbetween. Where can I find some sort of rod that will span the entire wall? 14 feet total wall-with 12 inches of wall on left of windows, 18 inches of wall on right? Total length of windows is approx. 11 1/2 feet. House was built in 1950-ranch style. Thanks-
  • 13 years ago
    Could you not do roman blinds in the fabric that you love so much?.....then you could have your fabric that makes you happy and not have to do the drapery at all.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    @fizzcity: If you google "extra long drapery rod", you'll find plenty. It's best to buy a rod that comes in sections. Otherwise the freight will be astronomical.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
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    To add to Carolyn's response for fizzcity, you need to think about what purpose the rod will serve. Are you wanting draperies that close? I would put 4 brackets on a rod that size for support, which means you will not be able to pull curtains shut across the brackets-make sense? There are special rings that make this possible, but probably not available just on the internet. Do you have a window treatment pro in your area you could consult with? If you plan to just have stationary panels, you will still need the support of 4 brackets, but you won't have to worry about the issue mentioned above. I also love the traversing decorative wood poles. Select Hardware has a beautiful line. (these are NOT inexpensive)
    A very inexpensive option--depending on your style is electrical conduit from your hardware store--a very contemporary/industrial look. --you will still have the issue of curtains not being able to pass over brackets, and would need to find coordinating brackets. Your local ironworks store should be able to help.
  • 13 years ago
    I have windows similar to yours. Your fabric will really jazz the place up !!
  • 13 years ago
    It looks like from some of the pictures here, that if I add panels and keep the blinds, I would need to redo the blinds so they are not set into the window frame but are at a similar height as the drapery rod. Is that correct?
  • 13 years ago
    Sandybottom, you don't have to set the blinds outside. Underneath the wood roman shades I have white wood blinds that came with the house. (the white blinds are set inside the window and looked fine-but not so much at night) I added the roman shades to balance the color white at night-the chocolate and red are delicious at night. I now leave the blinds drawn up at all times and only use the romans for privacy at night as I don't need the light control during the day. I have also puddled the panels on the floor for some softness. You might consider bringing your panels to the floor, but, not puddling-your room looks as though the crispness of hemmed panels barely touching the floor would look best.
  • 13 years ago
    I, too have a ranch from the 60's that has almost floor to ceiling, wall to wall windows. I picked out solid color "toffee" color panels from JCPENNY and took them floor to ceiling. Then I painted the walls the same "toffee" color. I chose Penny's because they are great about no hassle returns and have nice panels that I could afford. I also love the tone on tone look. The panels don't overpower the room with all that fabric. I bought 2 rods and pieced them together to get the 160 inch length rod I needed. I was lucky enough to find them in the clearance bin for $9.99 @ BBB!!
  • 13 years ago
    I don't think that filling in with fabric between the windows would be too much. An easy way to do draperies with no sewing is to get rods with the pins and attach the fabric every 6" or so and just let the fabric puddle in the floor.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    I think that maybe panels with grommets might be an option. You don't need as much fabric and the pattern shows a little more because they are not closely gathered. With this option I think you can cover the sections of wall, see the pattern, have the softness from fabric and keep a casual feel. Another choice!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    I like the Panel idea you have best. Although you absolutely must go to the floor. I've done several homes with windows or areas like yours. I actually think that the Panels will detract from your view less, than a valance would. I would plan to cover the wall space with the Panels, it will be a cleaner look than having a pair of Panels on each side of each window. As far as the Valance idea, it's a little outside the box, but you could treat the windows as one. It really just depends on the look you want. Here are some different ways I've treated those type windows - and the treating as one idea. Hope they help you decide!
  • 13 years ago
    I had windows like this in my last house and installed curtains with several panels on one long rod. I then experimented by placing all the panels to the side, and then placing panels individually between each window. The latter option was hands down the best way to warm up the room and add a lot of style. It didn't detract from the view as long as I didn't place more than one panel in each space. It worked beautifully. Go with the fabric you love, though I do have to add a plug for simplicity. My friend had similar windows and used the same idea but in a very simple solid linen (a warm color, not neutral) and they were stunning. Everyone who entered her room commented on them and she even had her room featured in a design magazine for the "light" aspect she achieved by cozying up the windows while still leaving them simple to let the light and view enter the room.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Silk curtains actually gives a great impact to get the luxurious look of a room design. It can be used in living room or bedroom.

    You can see sari curtains here : http://www.mogulinterior.com/sari-curtains.html
  • 13 years ago
    I would definitely do floor to ceiling panels and fill in between the windows. Then it would look like you have a solid wall of windows. It's so great to have such tall windows...I would emphasize them!
  • 13 years ago
    @JMittman Designs-thanks for the website for the rod vendor! Very nice products
  • 13 years ago
    Will you use the same area carpet? Curtain material looks great but I am not sure the colours work with the ac.
  • 13 years ago
    The fabric is busy, I'll likely bring in natural jute like area rugs throughout the room, then try and find some pillows on the red sofa that will help tie it all in. I retire Dec 1 and will start making the drapes then, and post final pics. I really have appreciated all the comments and help.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    @fizzcity--you are welcome. I think these are only available to the trade. I love this hardware and have used it quite frequently in client's homes. Good quality, and sharp looking. If you have any questions let me know. --Janet