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Advice since canning was already completed

16 years ago

Hello All,

I am looking for some advice. I have been reading alot lately and maybe a few people here can help.

I got into growing peppers more than ever this season since I started to learn about canning last year. I had a veggie garden since 2005. But only last year starting experimenting with canning hot cherry peppers since a friend of mine does it every year. So this year I ended up with almost 35 pepper plants of all different varieties. Some are just for eating right away, roasting or grilling like bells, poblanos, anaheims, etc. Then for canning, I have jalapenos, habeneros, portugese hot peppers, bananas, chilis, cherry bombs, italian long peppers and scotch bonnets.

So I first started harvesting back in late July and the harvest continues will great yields today. So last year I was told of this "old school" canning method and it sounded fine I guess and I have been using it. But as I have been reading, it sounds like I am skipping steps.

This is the method I was taught since this was the way my friend's uncle has done it for many years and he is 85 now. So I said OK, not really knowing any other way.

Harvest the peppers, wash them and let them dry

I use pint and quart Bell mason jars. I wash all pieces. Now some I just washed by hand and the rest I placed in the dishwasher. The dishwasher of course is the best since it santizes...but my friend said either way is fine.

So then I take a jar and add spices. I use salt, pepper, pickliung spices, oregano, sometimes fresh garlic and fresh rosemary.

I then start packing the peppers. As tight as I can pack them. I mix it up with a variety of peppers. As I get to the top, I then take distilled white vinegar and fill the jar almost half way. Then I fill the rest with filtered water. I get the mixture right to the top of the rim. I wait to see if the level dips a bit and I top it off again. Then I take the lid and apply pressure to keep it down and press any peppers that may have been sticking up a bit and then place the screw ring on it. I seal it tight and shake up the jar to mix the water and vinegar and the spices. Usually after that I notice that the level sometimes drops a bit, so I top it off with a bit more vinegar. I rinse the outside of the jar, dry it and label it with the date.

I then began to store them in my kitchen on the counter. I have good counter space and a granite top, so it stays cool. It is not a permanent spot, I will then move them to the basement.

So here is the deal, this is the way I was taught, but after reading so many sites, it seems this old school method may not be the safest! My friend has been doing doing this forever with no issues. But the more I read, I hear about boiling the jars, boiling the solution before adding to the jars, pressure canning, botchulism, etc.

I was always told since vinegar is being used, you shouldnt have to worry about botchulism. But now I dont know.

So the question is....am I playing with fire this way? The peppers look great and another reason my friend does not seal them cause he said after jarring, you will see in a few weeks that the levels go down since the peppers are soaking up the solution, so he adds more.

Now I have a bunch of quart jars done and they all look great from 7/22 till now all except for one. Which looks and smells fine, but I noticed at the very bottom of the jar, some white slimy substance was forming there. Very weird and my friend never saw or heard of it. But it didnt look right. It was only on the bottom and the peppers looked fine. But as I picked up the jar and turned it upside down, it started to spread and make the solution cloudy. That particular jar was only done on 8/27. But besides that, all other jars are fine.

So since the process was already done with over a dozen jars, to be sure there is no trace of botchulism or anything, should I boil the jars before using them now since I did not do that when I originally canned them? I heard this is an extra step people take even if they use a water bath at the beginning. Would this kill anything if any does exist? But would anything be visible? As I mentioned these jars have been sitting now from 7/22 with the last batch from 8/30. Besides the jar with the white substance on the bottom which I am throwing out, what do you suggest?

I appreciate your help and sorry for this tremendous read!! LOL

Comments (7)

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I pack my jars and boil the 1/2 vinegar 1/2 water solution with kosher salt in it. Once the solution is boiling, I pour it over the peppers into the jars. Pick each jar up and tap it on the counter top to let the air bubbles out, then add more brine. Screw the lids on the jars and turn them upside down for five minutes. Filp the jars back over and wait for the jars to seal. You need to make sure the jar lids seal to ensure that the food is safely preserved.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    What you both describe is a form of open kettle canning. Definitely not recommended by today's standards for safe canning. Even with the acid (vinegar) added, you'll need to process the filled jars in a boiling water bath.

    Regarding the vinegar and water brine, you'll be gambling with pH levels if you're not following a "tested" safe recipe. Another issue may arise with the use of garlic.

    I urge both of you to check out the National Center for Home Food Preservation site, link below, to catch up on today's safe methods. If you're in the US, check in with your local Extension, they'll help you as well. Both will have safe tested recipes as well.

    GardenWeb has a Harvest Forum where topics like this are covered all the time. Check it out as well.

    For those who say something like my grandmother did it this way for years and no one died, that's luck not right. It was right back in the day when that's all they knew but so was smoking and drinking during pregnancy.

    Here is a link that might be useful: NCHFP

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Ottawa is technically right. They should be processed in a hot water bath. I do use a specific recipe for the brine, I just didn't add it because it sounded like the original poster had one. I don't hot water bath pickles or peppers because it turns them to mush. I personally live by the fact that if the jars are sealed, the food is ok. Sorry for the next comment but: I have been doing it for 30 years ad never had a problem with one jar.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Just to ensure any Forum members bring this post up on a search get the full perspective, I'm posting a link to the follow-up on the Harvest Forum. Relevant and respectful advice from the knowledgeable folks there for anyone in the same situation or thinking of canning peppers in general.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Harvest Forum follow-up

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Good link. Also, it is sound advice to do a hot water bath on all canning. I do hot water baths with everything except pickles and peppers because it turn them to mush in my opinion. In order to ensure safely preserved food, a hot water bath always works and is really the best way to go.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Hi, Like Ikpips I was taught how to can hot peppers by an older Italian gentlemen who is now in his ninties and whose family has been canning peppers for over one hundred years. Like Simseed's method we pour the boiling 2 part vinegar to 1 part water brine over the packed peppers in hot sterilized jars,get the air bubbles out by using a plastic spatula. We pour a thin layer of olive oil over the peppers , clean the rim of the jar and place a hot lid squarely on jar and then hand tighten band. If band is over tightened then jars will not seal correctly. My wife and myself canned 20 jars yesterday (08/21/12) and they all sealed fine. We have been using this method for about 10 years. I'm not against using the hot water bath method for most canning, just not hot peppers I like mine crisppy not mushy. The last thing I'll say about this canning method is that I think the people that use this method have a recipe for the brine and what they add to the peppers when they are cutting them up that they won't reveal to anyone that helps in preservation of the peppers.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Actually, hot water bath is no longer considered safe for canning peppers alone or with other "low acid" foods. The NCHFP recommends pressure canning only for those.

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