Is it a climber? Look at Veilchenblau.

Here is a link that might be useful: Veilchenblau

Second Veilchenblau.
Michael

I believe that's it.don't agree about the smell though.(more fruity)I grew a white rose very similar to this when lived Indpls and it did smell like green apple.Wish I'd took it with me.It use to start blooming right after the Indy 500.

I moved this rose 2 years ago so It'd get morning sun& shade in afternoon.It seems happier.I figured it was root stock of something.When I brought her a rose with land payment she said she never grew that in yard& only had a red rose.Her red rose was nothing like this.The leaves we're very dark and thick& jagged edges.
THANKS!!!!!!