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Muses from SFG - Year One

18 years ago

Been lurking over a year, posted once or twice, and thougth I'd introduce myself.

Growing up, we did veggie gardens every year. I was probably the most enthusiastic of the family veggie gardeners. I just loved the planting, the harvest, the whole bit. Then with marriage, and bad locations and bad dirt and a really bad back I haven't had a veggie garden in 20+ years until this year.

We moved a couple of years ago to a house with a great location but even worse dirt for a garden (i.e. red clay, no top soil at all, crab grass screams and runs away). I'd been looking at SFG for many years and plunged whole-heartedly into it. Remember I'm a) and engineer b) an old-time gardener and c) sometimes don't heed all advice, so I made a BIG SFG. What can I say, I think I wound up around 350 squares. Don't worry about it though, the master plan actually is expandable another 300 squares if I need it. I'm amazed. I took probably 2 months to get all the squares build, filled, and populated, but they really seem to be coming on like gangbusters. I've never had dirt like this.

March is a really busy month for me, so I didn't try and get anything in early. Here in Georgia the season is so long you just don't need to rush, well except the cold weather stuff which I pretty much missed. Had a few things bolt, but expected it. No biggie. I'll be ready for the fall or early next year since it's all done now. I've already harvested lots of squash, cukes, a few toms, beans, okra, lettuce and shard.

I love trellises. Go vertical. Never done them before. I did mine with 1/2 EMT and 6 inch concrete mesh from a 50 foot roll. Painted the mesh with Rust-o-lium to keep the rust away. Set them onto rebar driven into the ground. I've got tomatoes up 6 feet in them and pole beans have already gone over the top (7ft) and back down 3 feet. Really strong and really neat. They're holding up the cantalope and butternut squash and cukes too.

I love weeding, or lack there of. Is it just me, or is it really this easy to keep the weeds out? That was an hour a day chore in the old days, but now it seems more like 10 minutes a week max. And the entire weeds always comes out -- root and all, which I'm sure makes it much easier. This was my biggest fear, but it's been SO EASY. Knock on wood.

I also love the height. I went with 2x10 treated pine. I bought it in the fall and let it get rained on/weathered all winter with the thought that any loose, excess chemicals would be gone by the spring. Don't know if it worked or not, but no third arm growing out of my back just yet. Anyway, I can sit on an egg crate and weed and tend and harvest. For someone who has had back surgery and radiation and all that, it's a god-send. I don't think my back would have survived having to get all the way to the ground that much.

Crazily enough, the thing I miss most so far is the family dinner. Growing up, we just used to go out and pick some food, bring it right back to the kitchen, cook, and eat. It was great. Today though, with kid 1 at dance at 6PM and kid 2 at soccer at 7PM that family sit-down and have dinner time isn't there, and by 8-9 when everyone if finally home we've picked up something fast and inedible in an overdecorated cardboard box. I've got a ziplock back of 2 day old okra in my fridge for Pete sake! I ought to be in my belly with some fresh tomatoes. I think I'm going to have to institute family lunches instead.

Well, thanks for listening and all the great advice you've given so far. This forum has made a great experience even better. Maybe I'll dig out the camera and post a pic or two later. This is long enough already.

David

Comments (6)

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    David, I hope you do post some photos. I'd like to see what 350 squares of sfg looks like. Man...I can't even imagine it. I've only got 136 squares, and they really keep me busy.

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Oh please post some pictures, Dave! I'm going the SFG route next year and I would love to see what you've accomplished in your first year. Especially the trellises, which sound terrific, and which I'm sure look spectacular with all those veggies growing.
    What else are you growing at the moment?

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Put me in the can't phathom 300 SF category as well. Hehe my 130 is more than I seem to need my first year.

    However, let me parrot you on the pleasures and benefits of SFG. I hate weeding normally. It's not only easy but the tiny weed sprouts stick out so well.

    Yeah, the people here and at Ft2Garden.com have been extremely helpful.

    I'd love seeing other people's gardens and it sounds like yous and mine are similar.

    Well done!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Sinfonian's garden adventure... Check it out!

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I really should check posts before sending. That number was supposed to be 230 squares. the plan is for 350, but I'm 3 4x8 beds and another 4x4 corn bed short yet. You can see from the pics that it's a pretty simple layout. three rows of three 4x8 beds and a 4th row of smaller beds. The plan then calls for a fence around the whole thing 5 feet out with a 2 ft wide bed all around the inside. It's not going to be all veggies though -- gotta have flowers too.

    I actually planted everything over at least 6 weeks. I'd build up a bed, plant it, and move on. So obviously some things are farther along than others. I've planted tomatoes(9), beans (bush and pole), lots of herbs, too much crookneck squash, zucchini, assorted peppers, okra, eggplant, cantaloupe(vertical), honeydew(sprawl), butternut squash(vertical), cukes, sweet potatoes, One peanut (ask later), lots of flowers (marigold, nasturtium, sunflower, zinnia), broccoli, lettuce, carrot, radish, corn, watermelon, Swiss shard. I probably missed a few, and will be adding some in the fall when the weather starts to break a bit (like Brussels sprouts).

    Were I to start from scratch again, the only thing I'd do dramatically differently is to add another foot to the aisles. They're 3 feet and 4 would have been better. I had the room ...

    I started a blog with this project, and threw up some pictures on it a few minutes ago. They could be better but give a general idea. Some people seem to be able to drop inline pictures, but I don't see that option.

    As for the trellises, they're pretty simple. I used the 1/2 inch EMT pipe, but build a T brace in the middle from a piece of 2x4 with 3/4 inch hole drilled across from the side and up from the bottom since I had an 8 foot span. I slid the EMT onto rebar I drove in the ground on either side of the boxes and attached an EMT anchor at the top of the box for that extra bit of support. I used concrete ties and that handy tie tool to attach the concrete mesh to the EMT. So far so good. I decided on 7 feet high from the ground. The concrete mesh is 5 ft. and the box nearly 1 so that's a 1 foot gap from the ground. I can reach the 7ft without a ladder and the gap at the bottom gives good access. I also did a funky triangle across a 4x4 section for the pole beans. Yes, there's a shadier back, but they seem to be doing fine with it. Oh, and the concrete mesh is rusty, so I'm glad I took the time to get a paint roller and cover it with rust-o-lium. Much nicer, though I missed a few spots.

    As for the size, I've been amazed at how little actual daily stuff I've done. I'm a bit calm about the bugs - - though I did have to get some pirethrin for the flea beetles on my okra and eggplant, and something is nibbling annoyingly on my tomatoes. But the weeding has been almost nil. I landscape fabric/mulched the aisles and edges, and think that probably helps with the weeds too.

    David

    Here is a link that might be useful: my blog - David's Folly

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    That looks incredible, David! (Sorry I called you Dave before...I was on the phone with a Dave when I was writing my response). I really love the trellis design, and I think I'm going to use it for my own garden next year. Your garden is a prime example of how to maximize your yield from a small planting area. Great job!

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Really, really amazingly stunning garden. I'm envious of your space (and the size of your beans!)
    Thanks so much for sharing!

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