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New Construction - need help! Range venting

18 years ago

Oh the wonders of building a new house. I have purchased the 48" Wolf Duel Fuel Range with 6 burners and a grill. The home construction was moving along great until the HVAC guys were figuring out how to vent the range. The house is in Wisconsin so it's pretty air tight and they advised I need an air exchange system to use a 900 or 1200 cfm fan. Wolf advised my contractor that a 900 cfm fan would be bare minimum and I can't go any less. I asked if I changed to the grill/griddle option and removed 2 burners if this would prevent the air exchange system, but they immediately said anything with a grill will need 900 cfm. It looks like the 48" range is out of the question for now, but they're even saying a 36" range top with 4 burners and a grill will not only need a 900 cfm fan, but an air exchange system. The cost of this system seem crazy and I would like to know if it's even necessary. Has anyone had to do this or know of anymore options? I really wanted the feature of the indoor grill and the ovens in one place not robbing any more cabinet space.

They suggested I could vent immediately out of the hood on the side of the house, but the subdivision did not approve this option as it would be "unsightly" due to the size of the vent.

Comments (7)

  • 18 years ago

    If you want a pro style range, you will need pro style ventilation. Yes, you need an ERV with makeup air. Otherwise, your home will be tight enough that it can cause a huge safety hazard by sucking the air from down your chimney or furnace vent. Carbon monoxide poisoning. Just a plain makeup air vent will solve that problem, but it gives you a new problem. You're venting expensive conditioned air out that vent. In a cold climate, that's quite a few $$ going up the vent. Thus the heat recovery unit. Works the same with summer time air conditioned air that you spend $$ creating.

  • 18 years ago

    If you want an indoor grill you're going to need a powerful hood and that will require makeup air - no way around that. If you forgo the grill, you could get by with 600 CFM which in many places doesn't require makeup air but you need to check your local codes - some places require makeup air for anything over 300 CFM - particularly with a new airtight house.

  • 18 years ago

    I wonder how much heat goes out the door when people grill outside during cold weather. Four or five trips is about the minimum. So maybe indoor grills are net energy savers.

    Back to your specific situation, do you have room to plant something that would hide the vent? Your subdivision might find that acceptable. We were able to retrofit a 1960's house with ventilation of the scale being recommended to you (exited through the roof over the garage), so there should be a way. What options are available if out the side of the house simply won't work?

  • 18 years ago

    The code here appears to be 4 cfm for every 1000 btu's. I'm still looking into this and hope to speak with the HVAC people in greater detail. They advised the ERV would be about 5k. I have never heard of them so I'm looking to see if this in fact is a good or average price. Does anyone know how loud these things are? I assume they are on the roof, but can you have an external blower then or does this just work of the main HVAC unit?

  • 18 years ago

    Clipshot - then only options presented from the builder are directly from Wolf and the HVAC guys.

    1. Different oven with smaller blower.
    2. ERV with the current oven and a 900 or 1200 cfm blower - which also does not include the extra cost of any shingles or plywood needed to install the ERV. Roof and shingles are done right now.
    3. Move to the Range top with double ovens which means a kitchen re-design and possible delays/extra costs. This option again is without the indoor grill and only 4 burners.

    I guess I'm having a hard time believing that you need an ERV with 4 burners and a grill on a range top. I even promised to "open a window," but I don't think that will go over well.

  • 18 years ago

    Your builder and HVAC guys are the experts and should be able to come up with ways for you to get what you want, even if that means another visit to the subdivision board. Don't let them take the easy way out. Any compromise that takes you away from your desired 48'' with grill will gnaw at you. If you have good trades I wouldn't worry too much about the roof or shingles. We also put our vent through an existing roof, it just stung a little less because it wasn't brand-new.

  • 18 years ago

    I wonder about the cost/benefit on the ERV. Not questioning need for makeup air, but so what if you're pulling cold air in? Yes, you'll spend more energy heating that air. But how much? Enough that $5k will seem cheap? I doubt it. Couldn't one just get an outside duct to right near (under?) the range? The cold air will get heated or removed when you're running the fan.