Do you have a pic?

DNA testing will not determine breed. It can distinguish parentage, coat color, profiling, and etc.

AKC should have a link on their website for DNA testing.

Hi Vicky- congratulations on your new dog! Groomingal is correct that DNA testing cannot determine breed. If you had a guess as to who his parents are, DNA testing allows you to verify that. But they can't determine the parentage unless they know who to compare the samples to.

If you wanted your dog to compete in AKC-sponsored events such as agility or rally, you could get an ILP # for him. I'm doing that with Tatyana so she can do agility. An ILP doesn't allow them to compete in conformation events though. I'm guessing that since you got him from the pound that he's already neutered, so he wouldn't be eligable for conformation anyway. Without knowing his pedigree, you wouldn't be able to have any of his offspring AKC registered if he isn't neutered.

I think that Boxers should be more stocky than the current trend of long-legged spindly looking things. Then again, I also think that agouti huskies are the most gorgeous, and they are never popular in the show ring, so what do I know?

Here is a link that might be useful: ILP

Thanks guys - oh poop!! I could take pictures but I don't know how to download them.

Meghane - no, i'm not going to compete with him - doubt he'd pay a lot of attention to me in the ring if i tried obedience. For some reason, i rarely see boxers in the ob ring. I have an ILP on a Shar Pei that I have and on my Malinois - it's a great program. But it seems like people still get show-quality dogs even if they're only going to do ob with them. My Malinois has a half-of-a-tail so she's clearly pet quality and people ask me if she's a rescue. No- she wasn't really a rescue but she was cheap. I liked her because she was different. I've also heard complaints that people will get ILP's on their dog and it's clearly a mix so you just can't please everyone.

I agree that the show boxers are almost ugly - I like the home-grown ones. Post a pic of an agouti husky - i've never heard of that.

vicky

What's profiling?

DNA profiling- not only identifies the dog but contains the information from the parents

Vicky, you've missed all my proud momma pics of Tatyana, my gorgeous agouti girl?! Well, I can certainly be coerced into posting another LOL!

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See I couldn't even resist posting 2!

You've gotta figure out that camera downloading thing. I'd love to see pics of all your critters. Photobucket is probably the easiest to use. I'm pretty technically challenged- can figure out the point and click though (usually)...

awww, Tatyana looks like she has lipstick on in the top pic! How cute!!!

If you may know the difference between an English and an American Cocker Spaniel, you will notice that the English variety is more stocky. Simarily, I have two Pembroke Welsh Corgis, one from Wales, the other from an American breeder. My guy from Wales is a much stockier dog than is American pal. It seems to me that many American breeders tend to breed dogs that are smaller for the breed with more refined features. Not good or bad, just seems to be a trend. Other trends, watch show German Shepherds that are breed to be very low in the withers. Really looks strange to me. Enjoy your boxer.

Yes, texasred, it's like the rottis. The germans look much different than the "americans". Germans are low on the leg and the americans are much taller with smaller features.

I have a Shar Pei that people would not believe was a purebred. While I also got her at a shelter - I just knew by her unusual coloring that she was of the variety "flowered or spotted." Even some experienced dog people thought I was just stupid when I said, "She's not a mix." She's just not the kind of Shar Pei that you see in the books - you have to have a certain knowledge base of the breed.

I'll keep researching my boxer but now I'll just say, "He's a very stocky boxer - probably European-bred." Maybe that's why his ears are cropped like a pit bull. Maybe that's what they do in europe - or DID in europe because he's not a young dog.

i'll post pics if my husband can help me.

vicky

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To save a little cutting and pasting, here is luvdog's handsome boy!

Hey thanks cynthia!!

That's my baby!! I'm not biased at all of course but I think he's fabulous.

See how wide he is at the shoulders?

vicky

I was at the vet hospital tonight and ready a magazine while visiting with my old guy. I found an add in there with a picture that reminded me of you boy. Very short legs!

Here is a link that might be useful: San Simon Bulls

An American Bulldog can look almost like a boxer, but a bit stockier.

Aw meghane, I am jealous of your beautiful agouti, Tatanya. Give her a treat for us!

That´s a Boxer.

Vicky- he's precious! I love a big muscular boy! You didn't mention he's my favorite boxer color too. You're right about the ears- they just about missed wacking them completely off. I love that expression with the bottom tooth sticking out. Too much. And yeah, definately boxer. Is he calmer than the long-legged hound-built ones too? Most of the stockier ones I know have been less rambunctious, but that isn't saying much for boxers LOL!

Thanks for confirming my suspicions guys. He really does look different than most other boxers but he's still a boxer!! Not that I have anything against mixes.

The AKC responded and you're right - doesn't establish "purebredness." I have to say, the AKC is so good about responding to any question you email them.

Yes, Meghane, that's the one characteristic about him that isn't typically boxerish. He CAN get excited but watch out because he was never taught to be judicious when he jumps up on you to celebrate. We exclaim, "Danger!!Danger!! Kevin's excited!!" whenever he starts moving quickly. But mostly he's a sedate boxer and I also get the impression that his density makes him more heat-sensitive so I'm going to be careful in this Arizona heat.

I've characterized him as a dog that needs external stimulation to get moving - he won't really entertain himself very well. If he's out in the back yard, he'll just sit there. If he was alone, he'd just sit there so I'm glad I've got other dogs to provide that external stimulation. All the other dogs like him.

anyway - enough about me

vicky

Well that eases my mind as well, actually there was nothing to ease, just my curiosity, really. My big guy is boxer-pitbull, but he certainly doesn't look much like most boxers I've seen. You can tell the pit-bull in him, but he's always seemed much stalkier than he should be for that mix. You don't see boxers much around here, so I've really only had the longer legged, and leaner ones to compare him to.