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Confused about Fast Lane swim jets.

18 years ago

We are getting bids from PB for our project. One PB we have says the Fast Lane jets are great and he is a licensed installer and it should work great in our free-form pool.

Now we have another quote from another PB who says it won't be able to create "current" because the pool is too big and too long and so he doesn't want to install the jets.

Could someone clue me in. Is it gonna work? It's something like $10,000 according to one PB so if it isn't, I sure don't want to waste money. They also told me it's 2 additional pumps!

HELP! Katherine

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Comments (7)

  • 18 years ago

    Hmmm, can't post the pix. Can someone fix my reference to it please? And tell me what I did wrong. Thank you!

    Katherine

  • 18 years ago

    {{!gwi}}

  • 18 years ago

    Good morning Katherine

    I seems as though some clarifications might be needed here. Up front, I want to tell you that I work for Endless Pools. We manufacture the Fastlane.

    First of all, the Fastlane does not employ jets and is not in any way a swim jet. The Fastlane uses a 5hp hydraulic pump (not 2) which turns a 16" propeller capable of moving up to 5000 gallons of water per minute in a broad, deep clear and smooth current. The block of water moved by the Fastlane is wider than your body and deeper than your swim stroke. The current is fully adjustable in 50 steps from a gentle drift to a speed designed to satisfy competitive swimmers. Jets, on the other hand, can move at most 800 gallons per minute through a small jet nozzle. This is turbulent, bubbly and merely hits you in the head and shoulders. It's comparable to swimming into a fire hose. The 800 gallon figure is generally achieved using 2 large jet pumps.

    Fastlane will absolutely provide enough resistance in the pool you have shown here. The speed of the current will dissipate as you get further from the Fastlane unit, but we have tried it in a 75 foot pool and the current is strong enough to be felt 75 feet from the unit.

    The MSRP of the Fastlane is $5,900 for the basic system and $6,600 for a higher speed version (really only necessary for the top 5% of swimmers) plus shipping to CA which averages $350. Installation costs will vary depending on exactly what's being done and how far the swim unit will be from your pool equipment.

    The bottom line here is that if you would like to swim in your swimming pool, the Fastlane is THE best swim current option on the market.

    I hope this helps!

    Michael

  • 18 years ago

    Micheal,

    Thank you so much for your reply. I am so glad to hear that it will work. I am sure they are inflating the price! It's San Diego! I have looked on the Fast Lane website and see that the available models are all "outboard". My PB tells me they are a licensed dealer and there is one that is only in the wall with no equipment showing. Is that right? They say it's for new construction and we would not see the system at all.

    We are definitely wanting this but we want the actual Fast Lane system and I am getting the feeling that we are not talking the same thing as what the PB is proposing to install. He did say that some equipment goes under ground right behind the pool? Any help would be appreciated.

    Katherine

  • 18 years ago

    Good Morning Katherine,

    I felt I should respond to let others who are reading understand more about the Fastlane. (Katherine called me yesterday afternoon and we had a discussion at length about the Fastlane).

    The Fastlane website shows many pictures of our retrofit Fastlanes because that was the product that we initially sold and have the most installed pictures of. It was only after a complete redesign that we started heavily promoting the wall mount (or new construction) Fastlane. The hydraulic pump for either the deck mount or the wall mount Fastlane can be placed by the rest of the pool equipment up to 200 Feet away.

    The wall mount Fastlane mounts to a bracket that is installed in the pool wall. It will protrude outward 18 inches at its widest point and thanks to the "step down" design, this occurs underwater and remains sleek at the top.

    The reason why the Fastlane must mount to the wall and not installed behind the wall is not only for functional purposes but for safety reasons. The bottom 1/3 of the unit is the intake. The Fastlane will draw water from 360 degrees around the base creating nearly 5 sqft of drawing space.

    If the Fastlane were to be installed directly in the wall then it would only be able to draw water in from the front of the machine, creating an entrapment hazard. The Fastlane needs at least 2 feet of open space on either side of the machine to not only work properly but to insure that the there is not an entrapment issue. There are pool construction techniques that can be employed to recess the Fastlane but it must adhere to our minimum clearance guidelines to ensure performance and safety.

    I understand that, for aesthetic purposes, it is ideal to have a swim system invisible in the pool. However behind the wall system's do not perform even close to the level in which the Fastlane does. The Fastlane is designed to be the perfect swim machine and if we made changes to accommodate this, we would sacrifice the quality of the current and integrity of the Endless Pools name.

    As for an installed price of the Fastlane. I can't speak on your final estimate for I am not a pool builder nor am I familiar with the particulars in the project. But I will make this statement. Do you want to buy a car that is from a fly by night manufacturer or do you want a car from a time tested, respected manufacturer? Good quality work, dependability, warranty and customer service go along way and in my mind, is worth the price of admission.

    Good luck in your pool journey. Hope to have you swimming soon.

    Best Regards,

    Michael

  • 3 years ago

    Hi Michael,

    How much does a fast lane pro cost in Australia and what should be reasonable installation charges. Does the company provide paid installers at all??

    Does the unit create any issues with installing below tiles automatic pool cover. ?? It seems the unit protrudes up vertically a bit which could pose hinderance to allow pool cover which runs below tiles and just on water surface. Please help