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Kitchen cabinet layout -- Advice please

15 years ago

My house was built in 1929. It is charming and inviting but the kitchen is a bad, early 90s renovation that is falling apart. I want a lovely kitchen, efficient and useful and a bit quirky. I want a powder room (only bathroom is on the second floor) and a laundry room on the first floor. My architect has come up with a very nice design for the space, one that keeps to the spirit of the house and gives me room. The size and shape of the addition are dictated by the size of my small, back garden and the placement of my garage. Most of the kitchen is in the new addition. I love the esthetic of Susanka’s Not So Big House. Work on the kitchen is part of an extensive first floor renovation.

Remodel goals and ideas: 
-A really good cooking kitchen for one cook with adequate storage and ample counter space

-A powder room (toilet and sink) and laundry room on the first floor 
-Storage on the first floor in the new mud room for coats and seasonal clothing, table linens and some towels, and the vacuum, broom, and mop (right now, there is no closet or storage space at all). A place for cat and (small) dog beds, food, and littler box. (Most of this will go in the laundry room.)
-A skylight in the kitchen.

-For the kitchen, I want white, inset cabinets. I was really smitten with soap stone for my counters but saw a laminate counter with a metal band trim. This is so perfect for the house and it is now a strong contender. A new floor for the kitchen which will be in the addition (possibly wood to match the rest of the house but not absolutely) 
-I am going to use my 70 year old kitchen table for breakfast seating, additional cooking and serving space, and home work doing. It is old formica with the metal band around the table top.

The family: 
We are my 10 year old daughter and myself (A grown daughter may move back home for grad school). I cook but my daughter likes to help and also likes to be in the kitchen. I have a white board set up for her in the kitchen so she can draw while I cook. A place for another white board or chalk board for her is important.

The way the house it set up at present, we eat all of our meals in the dining room. We would continue to eat evening meals there, but I want to use the kitchen table for weekday breakfasts and casual eating. I also like to entertain and would like it to be easy to have guests in the kitchen while I prepare meals.

My daughter is on the autism spectrum and her therapy brings therapists to our house 25 hours a week. We also love company and our house can have extra people dropping by at any time.

Kitchen and Appliances: 
My stove and refrigerator which are both white and a few years old are adequate for the present. I am not going to change them now; however, I will leave room for a larger french door refrig. I want to find a used dishwasher also in white to last until one of the other appliances wears out or I find the money to replace all of them. Eventually, I want to have stainless appliances.

Here is the layout of the first floor. The layout of the kitchen was put in by my architect as an example, not as a design. Rooms placement and sizes cannot be changed, nor can walls be moved. The door between the kitchen and the laundry/mud room is now an arch.

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Next up, the first layout of the kitchen cabinets. The dotted line for the sky light is an indication of where a skylight could be located. The kitchen table drawn in the middle of the room is the correct size of my existing table.

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The windows of the sink wall look out on the back garden.

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This is the stove wall and the short wall on the other side of the arch (that leads to the laundry/mud room.

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Any thoughts or opinions about the layout would be appreciated.

Suzanne

Comments (6)

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I'm always a sucker for '20s houses.

    Your layout looks like it will be cute. However, the fridge placement is absolutely not working. You optimistically drew a straight dimension line between the fridge and the sink, as if you can magically pass through that wooden table while you're cooking. You can't. You'll hate that setup, just as all the people who have barrier islands in the same position hate them. It's especially tough for you because have a busy house, so someone will often be sitting at the table and making that barrier even bigger.

    I think the fridge works much better in more or less its original position. That still leaves you plenty of landing space next to the range, plus you can use the opposite wall for the micro, pantry, etc. And you can actually walk to the sink.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks, Marcolo. Would you say the same thing if the table was just moved? I drew it there to get a feel for the size of it compared to the size of the rest of the kitchen, but moving it a few feet so that I had a clear shot from the sink to the refrig would be easy. i really like the stove wall to be frig free -- i have a picture of a kitchen like that and I keep coming back to it. However, I very much want the kitchen to be function first.

    Suzanne

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    This is impolite and excuse me, but I am bumping this up to get more feedback.

    Suzanne

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Have you considered putting the laundry on the second floor? I'm just wondering what the layout up there is. Having the washer-dryer up where the dirty laundry is taken off and the clean laundry is put away is much more practical than having it on another floor, if it's possible. If it's not possible, you might want to at least consider whether a laundry chute is feasible.

    I agree with Marcolo on the fridge placement not working. I don't think moving the table is that great of a help--you would have to move it far, basically down into the entry way, to keep the table, chairs and people there from being in your way. What you've drawn is a table with the chairs tucked in--try drawing it as a table in use, a table with the chairs where they would be if people were sitting there, and you'll see what I mean.

    So what I wonder is why not put the fridge down at the bottom left. Most people don't need to go constantly back and forth to the fridge when they're cooking--usually you get your stuff, put it on the counter and start prepping, with maybe one more trip to the fridge when it's time to add the eggs or whatever. So I don't think it needs to be so close to the range, and in fact it's more practical to have it closer to the sink since most of the stuff you need to wash before you cook it is stuff that comes from the fridge.

    So how about the fridge and its setup go down at or near the bottom, and the table moves over to the right, closer to the wall and whatever cabinets take the place of the fridge? That also has the benefit of getting the table out of the central traffic path into and out of the kitchen. And it would mean people could get up from the table to grab a drink or whatever from the fridge without getting in your way while you're cooking.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I actually love the layout just as you drew it! It definitely achieves the charm you're aiming for, and I think it would be quite functional and a pleasure to cook or hang out in. I like having the fridge kind of hidden around that corner, especially since I'm guessing it is covered in your daughter's stuff (not that you don't want to display her beautiful her works of art, but that setup can make a kitchen look cluttered). I don't think the table location will be a problem, especially since you have room to scoot it down if it does turn out to be in the way. I'll disagree with marcolo on this (quite rare!), because it's not at all what I would consider to be the equivalent of a barrier island. The only thing I would change from your drawing is I'd put what I assume to be your subway tile backsplash all the way to the ceiling behind the range.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Oh, I would love a laundry on the second floor but no possibility in this house, I have three bedrooms and a bath, all small and all with inadequate closets. The first floor is as close as I can get. I had a laundry shoot in another house and it was wonderful. I'll have to explore the idea with my builder.

    I am concerned about the placement of the frig. In my present kitchen, the frig is near the door to the diningroom. I don't like it. Putting it where ideagirl suggested would make it the first thing seen when walking into the kitchen from the dining room once again. Okay, so that is form over function. Any thoughts on this?

    And the backsplash was just a suggestion. I wanted to see what it would look like but didn't have the patience to draw it all in and to size. I am sure I will be pondering over blacksplashes soon. I had questions about using some tile and some beadboard, but can't quite see where I could make the switch without looking jarring.

    Thanks for the help,
    Suzanne

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