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12 years ago

We, hopefully, will soon start a kitchen renovation. The wall dividing the kitchen and DR will be removed to give us more light and space in the DR. The slider to the porch will remain. The window over the sink will be replaced and moved to the right.

I like the plan, but I think I want the DW to the right of the sink and the trash to the left. Also, we have a standard depth refrig and it will protrude more than the design shows.

The island housing the range was planned for a down draft vent, but we have decided to have an island hood.

We plan to eat breakfast, lunch and snacks at the island and dinner in the DR. Currently, we never use the DR due to crowding, little natural light and no view of the back yard. The current table in the kitchen is going away.

The design is from a local cabinet maker. We also paid a KD for a plan and realized we and she were not a good "fit". The CM had incorporate some of her ideas in this plan.

I would appreciate your thoughts and ideas.

Here is a link that might be useful: previous post

Comments (6)

  • 12 years ago

    Having the DW against corner seems inconvenient to me, tough to reach over the open DW door to get to the cabinets. However, having the trash further from the corner also makes sense to me...we generate a lot of trash and having all the kids traipsing through my area to get to trash would bug me. Could it go in the island? Maybe lose one seat on the island and put trash and beverage fridge back to back?(I'd put trash where bev fridge is and bev fridge on other side.) And move DW to right of sink? It means added cost of another lower cab, and not sure how many seats you need at island. If your family is less trashy or it doesnt bother you, then I'd say yes, just switch them for sure.

    The island with range seems narrow to me. 9" on either side is not much space for prep stuff, thinking - egg wash bowl, bread crumb bowl, then into fry pan. No room for that. 9" isnt even really room enough to set a plate down to transfer food to. How wide are your isles? Can you get to 15" on a side?

    You spoke of budget in the other thread...is the venting for an island hood setup cost similar to that of an exterior wall vent hood cost?

    Not a professional, just a user!

    Good luck with your remodel, if you have never lived through a remodel, it will most likely be more painful than you expect...but worth it in the end. I heard someone describe it like childbirth, painful during, but you forget it all when you see your beautiful baby.

  • 12 years ago

    I've seen this before - I suspect I'll make the same comment I did last time.

    I agree with OOTM - there is not nearly enough space around the range. At 9", I would be worried about a fry pan handle getting bumped as someone was walking by - and people will be walking by to get to the fridge. I would do everything I could to get the range on the perimeter.

    What's on the wall to the right of the fridge/pantry? Can you shorten that wall, so the fridge could move to the end? Is it a counter-depth fridge (that's what's shown).

    With the range on the wall, you can vent to the outside, and provide good space on each side. You can move the DW to the right of the sink, and put the trash on the island. Then you can have either a super susan in the corner, or close it off and put drawers on both sides.

    I much prefer an easy reach upper corner cabinet to the angled one you show. I had two of those in my old kitchen, and hated them. Lots of space, true, but difficult to use it, unless you put in lazy susans.

    I'm not sure of the guidelines, but 4 stools at your island looks really tight - the three on the end will be sharing the same knee space.

  • 12 years ago

    It's an incredibly unsafe design that violates NKBA standards.

  • 12 years ago

    Much safer like this, with more and better counter space. The island actually becomes an interactive social prep space.

  • 12 years ago

    Even in LWO's - much better - design, the people sitting at the island will not have nearly enough knee space. The people on the right and left will bump with the person in the middle, and the person on the left will also bump into the wine fridge.

  • 12 years ago

    Take LWO's plan but move the wine cooler to the left of the range. All the way to the wall.

    Is the wine cooler a must have?

    You island as drawn reminded me of mine. Here is a link of how GW helped me with my island and getting seating for four.

    Here is a link that might be useful: help with island seating/layout

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