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Circuit assignment conventions / O C D

18 years ago

Does anyone out there, other than me, apply a touch of OCD to the arrangement and assignments of circuits whenever possible?

In any building I get to work on, circuit 1 ALWAYS powers the lights in the room containing the panel.

I usually have one or more "lighting only" circuits - which start at 3 and are consecutive in the left side - keeping all receptacles off them to minimize the likelihood of a tripped circuit leaving someone in the dark.

If there are enough two-pole circuits to matter, I try to keep them on the right side of the panel, always starting at the top and placing them directly next to each other.

Anyone else got these, or any other habitual quirks?

Comments (5)

  • 18 years ago

    Nothing nearly like that.
    I am a bit anal about these things, but I'm not nuts.

  • 18 years ago

    I didn't wire it, but when we remodeled, our electrician put all the single pole breakers on the left, and started bottom right with the double pole breakers.

  • 18 years ago

    since we use generators a lot, i prefer to keep the known 120v loads as balanced as possible between legs. even if you are not installing a genset now, you may wish to do so later and it is just easier if everythign is balanced. of course, there is no way to balance out many of the loads, but stuff like fridge/DW/gas dryer/lights/etc can easily be balanced.

    no, i am not a sparky. i do frequently have to wireup/rewire tower sites though. and since i have a small genny for my house i have gone thru and redone my panel to balance it as much as possible.

  • 18 years ago

    Sounds like a nice idea, but on most commercial work, we are required to balance the panels to within a certain tolerance and your OCD method would generally not be feasible due to the various loads imposed on the breakers.

  • 18 years ago

    Because I hate spaghetti wiring and rats' nests, I think my foremost consideration in laying out a box is to come up with a "visual design" that will be neat and orderly.

    If, for example, a panel has only a single long neutral bar, I'll tend to place the two-pole 240V circuits on the opposite side since they don't need a neutral. But I'll also take into consideration where the wires enter the box.

    The heavier guages that are stranded (e.g., #8 and larger) have more of a mind of their own and don't cooperate as well as the smaller guages in holding intentional bends and angles, so I like to let them take simple, "natural" paths to their terminals wherever possible and minimize the necessity for making sharp bends within the the box.

    In choosing the best wiring pattern I can come up with, a great deal depends on where the branch circuits come from. For example, circuits served by main panels located in basements very often come predominantly from above (i.e., enter the box at the top). Where that's the case, I like to place the smaller circuits below the larger ones so that the small guage wires have the longer paths with the most bends.

    With AFCI and GFCI breakers becoming more and more common, I also take into account the runs of the neutral pigtails from these "specialized" breakers to the neutral bar. Not only can those pigtails quickly contribute to ugly box clutter, but they won't always reach a neutral bar from all slots. (And who wants to have to splice on an extender?)

    Also, many of the AFCI/GFCIs are wider than ordinary breakers, so I try to place them in an area with plenty of space where their "porches" have a minimal impact on other wiring runs and where they don't obstruct access to ground bars and/or neutral bars.

    To the extent possible, I try to organize breakers in sets representing my idea of "logical groupings." Thus, bedrooms and general lighting circuits tend to end up clumped together, kitchen-oriented stuff ends up in another line of adjacent breakers, while furnace, well-pump, hot water and sump pump are clustered in another segment, and so forth.

    And, yes, I try to do at least a decent "seat-of-the-pants" balancing across poles, taking into account my best guesses on what things tend to draw power at the same time as well as the actual load demands.

    It's not always possible to optimize on all these variables simultaneously and I don't consider any of the above to be hard-and-fast rules.

    When all is said and done, I suppose I'm more of a neat freak than anything else. I really like a box that looks clean and orderly with like-type wires (e.g., neutrals and equipment grounds) running in parallel "visual channels" that are easy to follow and easy on the eyes.

    I guess we all have our OCD quirks, eh?