Software
Houzz Logo Print
nasmijati

OLLD 12-30-2012

13 years ago
Congratulations to all of you who have babies coming into your family!

I learned about the topic of color affecting humans as part of my career, and also from personal interest. I feel strongly about this topic. Here is my point of view:
Color choices for a room for adults and families in a home and color choices for learning spaces for children MUST be approached from different perspectives.

To quote Faber Birren, "A haphazard indulgence in bright accents - rugs, furniture, accessories - may be charming and all that, but it is largely meaningless. What may be done in a home is no one's business but the owner's and [the] decorator's, but if the physiological and psychological needs ... are to be served, colors should not be chosen on whim or impulse."
From "Color and Human Response: Aspects of light and color bearing on the reactions of living things and the welfare of human beings"
Van Nostrand Reinhold Company
ISBN 0-442-20787-5

It is doubtful that someone on Houzz will have expertise in the area of the impact of environmental color on the learning capacity of children, and the physiological response of the human child's body to different colors. I suggest you devote time for considerable research in this area. Be sure you are keeping in mind that you are looking for the effects of color on CHILDREN. (There is a wide range of research in the area of the effects of color on adults, as noted in the post above.)

Children who are 30 months old have preferences and can make choices between two items at a time. Include them in the color choices.
For children age three and older, sit down side by side with each child individually with a pad of good drawing paper. Have him/her sketch out and describe what s/he wants. Take notes.

Be aware of the color of clothing you wear when you are teaching. You may find you can keep the children's attention longer when you are wearing a monochromatic top with texture(s) than a multi-colored top.

Here are excerpts from a Design Dilemma discussion on 12-27-2012. My strong, heartfelt opinion is expressed in my reply.
"""...headboards are considered "furniture" and its always good to keep furniture in a neutral color so that you can change out other things in the room and still use the same furniture with different colors. I might suggest something like a light taupe/gray..."""

"""...a change of wall colour could allow the blues to sing a little more. A gentle taupey colour would be restful, and could be easily reworked as your daughter grows up...""

""Ha I would add lots of color. How about painting the room a bright pink and adding yellow with other accessories...""

eztia
These parents are responsible for the growth and development of their four year old girl. They have asked for help with color.

Research done in Germany, many years ago now, shows that children whose classrooms were painted tan had lower intelligence scores than children who learned in classrooms painted yellow or blue.

I am concer

Comments (44)

  • 13 years ago
    Previous post, continued...
    I am concerned when the colors tan, gray, or taupe are suggested for a very young child's environment.

    It is my opinion that choosing colors for a sleeping space for a young child must take into consideration the temperament of the child, and the physiological AND psychological effects of color on the developing brain.

    I believe that pastel colors in the specific sleeping area of the room help a child settle into slumber.
    I believe brighter colors are appropriate for play areas.

    Another resource for information on child development is the National Association for the Education of Young Children (NAEYC). To become an accredited preschool in the USA, the NAEYC standards must be met. They have information about all aspects of development for children through the age of five.
  • 13 years ago
    eztia, I agree with a lot of what you've written and quoted. I had a friend once who painted their nursery ceiling a strong red which I thought was just wrong. A bedroom, be it for a child or an adult, should be a soothing, sleep inducing space. It shouldn't be a place for distraction or a chaotic feel, as too many bold colors can be. There are many other rooms in the house where the use of strong color is appropriate.

    I also believe that in a bedroom furniture should be kept to a minimum and clutter should never be allowed, along with excersize equipment. I don't need to fell guilty staring at my treadmill while I'm trying to sleep.
  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 13 years ago
    Bobbi I once had a cross trainer in the dining room laughing at me while I ate my dinner! Not good at all and it ended up being a place to hang wet coats.

    I agree with calm bedroom schemes for everyone. My children all have very strong colour preferences. We generally allow accents in those colours but not too much because bedrooms should be restful but t-shirts are another matter!
    I recall starting school here after the US, the building was run-down, the exterior was painted grey and inside was extremely dreary, lots of grey (you look out the windows and if it was raining it was utterly depressing- I hate grey) and those clinical colours you used to get in old hospitals. I hated going and couldn't wait for the bell. A good learning environment is essential, especially for elementary pupils leaving home for the first time sometimes.
  • 13 years ago
    Lisa, funny you should say that about your school. I remember my elementary school being condemned because of its age and they built us a new one. It had colored chalk boards! Green, and yellow, it was so exciting! Colored chalkboards, wow!

    Once I was on a cruise, and a port of call was Puerto Rico. The ship docked next to a bunch of tall, gray buildings, and it was raining that day. It was so discouraging that's exactly all I saw of Puerto Rico, just the gray buildings. Didn't even want to get off the ship!
  • 13 years ago
    Fascinating topic! Considering the percentage of children today on the "autism spectrum", it would be a real project to figure out whether too much/many colors & "moving objects" are distracting, or actually calming for them!

    Once upon a time hospital interiors were painted a pale green, because it was supposed to be "soothing", but after a while, the backlash was against "institutional green" because it became associated with hospitals & other places people didn't like visiting!
  • 13 years ago
    Funny, I never minded the color they painted the walls in the hospitals, it was the smell that got me!!!

    Ladies, there's a dilemma out there today about shower rails and a shower door, check it out and see what you think???? https://www.houzz.com/discussions/question-about-framed-shower-doors-and-new-installation-problem-dsvw-vd~284085
  • 13 years ago
    Well bobbi, this made me get up & look at my own shower door, which I didn't install & don't use! The door is shorter than the 2 other stationary walls of the shower, but there's decorative metal scrollwork atop the door, that makes it visually just as high. Not sure if the height difference was due to standard heights of doors & glass panels at the time, or customization.
  • 13 years ago
    She should have gone frameless. There is so much trim it makes her shower look even smaller.

    I did find this and i don't know if any of you have used the solar tubes or not, but we put one in our small bathroom because there is not window. These tubes work so well, at first you think someone has left the overhead light on.
    Nordquist · More Info
  • 13 years ago
    I've heard of solar tubes, and thought about it for my main bathroom, if putting in a conventional skylight becomes too complicated & expensive having to relocate ductwork in the attic! I've never actually seen a solar tube installed, so I don't know if it gives the same effect as a skylight .. or looks a little strange. I put a skylight in the master bath in my last house, because I wanted to close up the window .. and it was fabulous! You're right that it often feels like the lights are on, because it's so bright! This house already had a skylight in the master .. thankfully .. once less project for me to have to do!!
  • 13 years ago
    Eztia, based on your reading about color for infants, would the soothing gray room I posted yesterday be a good choice? After the abundance of discussion about mother/daughter relationships, I feel the need to call my mother. She is an angel on earth and I count myself blessed beyond measure.
  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 13 years ago
    astraea, I had no choice in this particular bath, as the roof was facing the street and I didn't want to look at the skylight. Agree the skylight is a great idea in any bathroom. Have on in the guest bath. Gives me more wall space; steam rises; and can leave it cracked if need be.

    Velux Sun Tunnel Skylight · More Info

    Easy install :>)
  • 13 years ago
    astraea, we put a solar tube in our bathroom and absolutely love it! Most people think it's a light because it's so bright and reach for the switch. Our bathroom has no windows and judyg is right., EASY install. We're tempted to put them in other rooms as well we like them so much.
  • 13 years ago
    I had to replace the skylight in my other house, because the inspector said the seal was going .. I think I got a Velux. Maybe I'll look at their "Sun Tunnel" to see how they compare.
  • 13 years ago
    eztia, getting back to the nursery colors, my little granddaughter's room is a very pale, lovely shade of gray with white trim, flowy white curtains and a few soft pink accents and a large rug with pastels. Her furniture is dark, espresso wood. I got a bit confused reading your post because you were quoting some of the naysayers from the original Design question. It feels very soothing when I walk in, but I'm concerned because of what I read with the gray. They haven't started the nursery for the new baby until they learn if it's a boy or girl in February. I want to steer them in the right direction with colors. Soft pastels are good then? Or is light tan color ok with soft green accents for example?
  • 13 years ago
    Creeser - I already looked at Velux' website, and saw that there's various types of their "Solar Tunnels", depending on your installation. It gives me hope that even if I can't put a conventional skylight in the new bathroom, I can get some natural light with the "Tunnel"!
  • 13 years ago
    Bobbi--Are you around this afternoon? There's a discussion where cleaning the old grout between countertop tiles has come up that I think could use your input. I seem to remember you had a product or technique that was successful, but I can't remember the details.
    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/trim-and-cabinet-color-dsvw-vd~284639
  • 13 years ago
    Thanks feeny, I'll check it out!
  • 13 years ago
    @creeser and michigammemom. I just returned - was busy until now.
    You are right when you say the gray is soothing for YOU. It is not good for the baby. Neither is tan.
    Keep in mind that the visual development of a newborn is not mature at birth. By 8 weeks, however, that baby will be learning with all senses.
    Another tidbit about newborns and babies - they cry more in yellow rooms.
    So, what to do? Research.
    I will start now and see what is new in the field of color on infant physiology. I'll let you know my progress as I go along. Oh, I am getting excited to start researching! More probably tomorrow or the next day. This could take a while...
  • 13 years ago
    FINALLY FOUND YOU!!! You really tricked me today. Thanks for the clue Astraea, I ended up just putting in OLLD.

    Eztia, interesting about yellow rooms. When my joeys were born yellow was supposed to be the best colour to use because of it's sunny aspect = happy bub. I only used a very pale lemon and everything else was white but I definitely didn't have any crying problems. Of course all kids are different. I can see where bright colours, especially in wall murals and mobiles above the cot would stimulate more than calm a child for sleep.

    Talking autism, it is supposed to be that we all have a degree of it in us. I had a test somewhere you could do - see if I can find it.
  • 13 years ago
    O K, comments on this, please?: I make a recommendation and the next commenter shoots it down. Do you think the comment could have been: Lots of good suggestions here. Could I add another? On no, it is more dismiss judyg's comments because mine are soooooo much better. Grrrrrrr. (Been a long day. Grumpy).
  • 13 years ago
    eztia, on my comment above, anything soothing for a bedroom for someone 68? Seriously. Do we need different paint colors in our bedrooms as we age? So many of us take sleep medications, maybe our bedrooms, as lovely as they look, are too stimulating?

    I know I need cool, the window cracked open, even if it is freezing.
  • 13 years ago
    oldroo, interested in the autism article. My wonderful plumber has a son who is 26 and autistic. We love him, but, wow, God bless his dad. Behavior that is off the charts and unpredictable.

    What would our degree of autism be and how would it be expressed?
  • 13 years ago
    @judyg. I did not mean offense. I just have a completely different perspective than a professional designer. I did not explain myself well. My apologies. Gray and turquoise are a lovely combination. I believe they are not the best choice of colors for a nursery, however.

    So, in answer to your question, yes. I do think people need different colors in their sleeping places as they move through each stage of development. This does NOT mean one has to repaint and redecorate every five years or so. I'm finding some data on this, but not enough to report with confidence yet.
  • 13 years ago
    I learned something when my elderly aunt was living with me .. some medications damage the rods & cones in your eyes, and your color vision becomes impaired! She had been taking Tamoxifen after cancer treatment, and said the green of trees wasn't as green any more!
  • 13 years ago
    @michi. I have found a few tidbits of research so far.

    One is that the colors you favor (I looked at your Ideabook) are common for people living at your latitude. Y'all are used to gaining/learning information in ambient light. People in sunnier locations tend to prefer brighter colors.

    Second, the color green is helpful for babies who are teething. I am still trying to isolate the exact color of green used in the studies, as well as whether green objects such as towels work as well as using light in the green spectrum on the baby's body.
    (Since we already know that blue light can heal jaundice in babies.)

    Third, there is quite a bit of research on the type of light used in rooms of the home on the well-being of the inhabitants. This area of research has increased since I retired.

    I'll be reading a LOT for the next several days...
  • 13 years ago
    eztia - sounds like we are really keeping you off the streets and out of mischief. This is really getting interesting.
  • 13 years ago
    Well, I just painted my bedroom green, trying to think what might describe it best because it doesn't photo. I guess I would call it a spring green or an apple green, it seems to have a brownish undertone that takes the lolly look out of it and which is why I think it doesn't photo true. WHEN I get my curtains finished there will be lots of white in the room so I am aiming for a very fresh and clean look. Loving it so far, and I'm sleeping like a baby (maybe because it makes me happy??) and despite the moonlight streaming into the room. Probably won't be able to sleep when I get the curtains up.

    Definitely the sunnier location applies to us but I wouldn't say I prefer brighter colours, just clearer, fresher ones. I told you how I tried for browns and got poo. Got involved on another thread about light in different areas and a few gave examples of differing lights for example, the light in Denver was totally different to Houston because of altitude. Would make a very interesting study.

    OMG just read eztia's comment on green for babies teething - I'm desperately trying to hang onto mine!!!!
  • 13 years ago
    I have about 60 emails to wade through to find the autism test, but I googled it and there were quite a few sites with the test, it is just the one I was emailed had been recommended. I wasn't in a good place when it was sent ot me so I didn't take it any further. I have a feeling around 20 is the average person.

    I can really relate to extreme cases though, we have a group home next to us and one of the guys is very bad. As hard as it is I have actually made representations to local MPs about these homes being in residential areas, especially with extreme cases. The first time I heard him I nearly rang the Police, I thought he was being murdered - the screaming is horrific and he throws furniture and smashes things. Not pretty at 4 AM!!! The issue I had is that we have quite a lot of young children in the street who were being quite affected by it. In fact they had only been here a couple of months when LA dd came to visit with Miss 6 who was 3 at the time and she was so terrified dd had to find somewhere else to stay. It really upset me when I see so little of them that they couldn't stay with me in my own home. How do you explain something like that to a 3 year old!!! The next time they came, Miss 6 was over her fears but baby brother was 6 months old and was still having very good afternoon naps - like 3 - 4 hours. Because of the noise he was frequently woken after just 1/2 to 3/4 hour, enough to take the edge off him, and wouldn't go back to sleep so by dinner time was too tired to eat and just wasn't having proper feeds, which isn't good for a 6 month old. Again, every 3 or 4 days dd had to make sure she was out somewhere where he could have a proper sleep to catch up.

    It is supposed to be manageable with medication but so many things can derail them and it seems the meds have to be constantly adjusted.

    What also annoyed me is that the other guys are Downs Syndrome, one of them is so cute I just love him and I just hate to think of what they have to go through actually living with it, as far as I am concerned it was nothing short of abuse, but I was told that as they are all mentally ill, they just have to learn to live with each other. I was also told the house was totally unsuitable for their needs and they wouldn't be renewing their lease after three years. Well the 3 years was up in September, and they are still here so obviously we have to live with it for another 3 years. The amount of broken furniture constantly thrown out is huge too, must be costing a fortune and guys are constantly here replacing broken glass doors and windows, surely the guy is a danger to himself and should be in much safer surroundings.
  • 13 years ago
    Ha ha, I just had a thought Judy, maybe we do need bright colours in our bedrooms so when we wake up in the morning we KNOW we are still alive!!!!
  • 13 years ago
    eztia, thank you so much for info on the color research! I look forward to hearing what you find out. I never knew color influenced differently at different stages of life. Fascinating!
  • 13 years ago
    When I was a kid, "gifted" was a good thing .. and I was a "gifted child" .. IQ 172 I think. Somewhere along the way "gifted" began to be used instead of "challenged", as if anyone would thing of autism or downs as a "gift" in the normal sense! I know a bright guy who has a few odd mannerisms, and sometimes I wonder if he isn't "on the spectrum" .. like Asperger's.
  • 13 years ago
    HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!!!!

    Just watched our fireworks display - the annual blowing up of the bridge.

    Lisa, one thing I love about New Year's Eve too is that we get to see the Edinburgh Military Tattoo - like 4 months later. Have you ever been to it? It would be on my list of things to do before I die if I didn't get so emotional. I would blubber all the way though it, I get so moved. Actually I was a bit disappointed with this year's, I know the focus was on the Queen's Jubilee but there just weren't enough bagpipes for me. Does your hubby wear a kilt at all?
  • 13 years ago
    Astraea, I have seen quite a bit lately about very intelligent people having autism. Didn't that school shooter fall into that category. He was a loner which is very typical of autism. All this political speak is getting out of hand. Hard to know at times what anything means.
  • 13 years ago
    They did say that no form of autism makes the person violent, so he obviously had other problems as well. Too bad his mother isn't left to explain anything.
  • 13 years ago
    Hi all. Re: green and babies teething. I believe it is supposed to ease pain rather than accelerate tooth loss. No need to run out for dentures!
  • 13 years ago
    eztia, a definite miscommunication here (hate writing things because it doesn't always translate correctly). I was not referring to anything you have said. I was coming from another post where somebody got snarky and I was blowing off steam.

    olldroo, probably the same person. You are good to walk away.

    I am following with great interest everything you are sharing with us about babies and colors and how important it is to keep all this is mind. My degree is in Education and never was I introduced to anything like this.

    Throwing this out about migraines, which thank goodness I do not suffer, but I understand those who do get auras? They see colors and explosions of light, etc before the pain sets in. The colors actually make them nauseated.

    This is such an interesting thread. I wonder why we have such likes and dislikes of colors? I look at some of these fabulous rooms on houzz, but the paint color is so repulsive to me….yuk! And yet I know it is beautiful to someone else and correct for the design. Gold/yellow sets my teeth on edge. There is a blue that makes me feel a little sick to my stomach, too.
  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 13 years ago
    Hi Roo. Much as l love bagpipes I've never been to the Tattoo (lived in Edinburgh for 5 years as well!)
    My husband doesn't care for kilts at all- I like them. Update - he just told me he'd wear a kilt provided it was a warrior's traditional kilt not the black jacketed version with lacy jabot (no fancy dress.) I'm all over that!
    Do you remember talking about Aussie accents recently? I was watching Marvel Avengers with my kids and Thor (handsome devil) was played by Chris Hemsworth who I discovered is Australian. Exactly how would you classify his accent? It wasn't at all like ones I'm used to - "G'day mate" ala neighbours/home and away.
  • 13 years ago
    O K girls, hurry on over to this one. I had to comment.
    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/fireplace-dilemma-dsvw-vd~285572
  • 13 years ago
    Isn't that an odd photo to use for a decorating website .. just sayin'? If I had a figure like that, no one would notice the fireplace!
  • 13 years ago
    I just hope it is a bathing suit.
  • 13 years ago
    I might put an old picture of me in a bikini for posterity!
  • 13 years ago
    I think she benched pressed a lot of those tiles, too. And did all the work herself…she would have to because what guy could work next to her and get the grout right?
  • 13 years ago
    Lisa - don't know if it is just me or not, but I have never seen a guy's legs look bad in a kilt, provided they are wearing the white boots. They are a turn-on!!!

    Chris Hemsworth was on Home and Away but it was before I got into the show, I only got addicted when I was caring for my mum, as she loved it, That would be about 5 years ago now and I really can't remember him in it. I haven't seen anything of him since so really can't comment. I think he has been in the States for some time now, so he might have picked up a bit of drawl. Home and Away is very typical to me, it just sounds like a typical day here. That show is filmed not far from me, the Police Station used in it is our local one and many scenes shot are from all around our area. In fact LA dd was married in a beautiful restaurant on the south headland over looking the beaches and the ocean.

    http://www.jonahs.com.au/weddings-gallery/

    I laughed during the Military Tattoo last night, Aussies had quite a featured piece and the commentator announced they were playing "The Road to Goondagai". It is actually Gundagai and is pronounced 'gun'. It is so funny how people just cannot get around the vowels in many of our place names and yet they are all so easy, I think because most are Aborginal names and they look hard.