Software
Houzz Logo Print
halocline

RE: Brush Cherry ( Josh? )

11 years ago

Hi Josh,

I thought I would get this off of Al's thread so as not to sidetrack.

I took this new B.C. (the 2nd one) out of it's pot today, it was pretty dry, the soil down in the pot smelled fine.(I didn't think to take a pic.) It's root bound but not too bad, a lot of finer roots on the outside. (Not like the 1st one, which I will get to in a moment.) I put it back in it's pot & gave it a good watering, that's when the "swampy" smell came back, fairly strong, even after washing my hands I can smell it.

Here's a pic of the new one.



I bought the 1st one to experiment on (bonsai wise). Unfortunately it had ants, I had to do a hasty & brutal transplant on it.

these are pics of that plant bare rooted.


You can see in the last pic, how the massive tap root had found it's way to the bottom & side, then began to circle.

How would you go about reducing this type of root mass?

This is how that plant looks today.


It was severely traumatized due to the transplant,but it's showing some new growth.

I don't want this to happen to my new B.C.

I've read many of your posts & thought you might have some experience dealing w/ large root systems, & possibly reducing them.

Like I said, I bought one of these to practice on (bonsai wise). Al had given me some suggestions on how to build a strong root system (GREAT NEBARI - bonsai forum),

I know I'm rambling on here... Overall I guess, I wanted to know how to safely transplant my new B.C. when the time comes.

I think it should be fine until the weather improves. By looking at the roots & soil today, I don't know why it smells like that.

Any help would be great, thanks.

Rob

Comments (10)

  • 11 years ago

    Hey! Good pics!

    I'm not sure why the soil smells that way, either, unless there's something in there that becomes aromatic when moistened? A fertilizer perhaps?

    As far as root-pruning, I've taken all my cues from Al. That heavy circling taproot...I would cut all that bottom stuff off completely, then I'd whack some of those other exceptionally long roots, too. Of course, there's going to be some shock to the plant.

    That's the other thing....these trees are in full leaf. Don't they need lots of sunlight to hold their leaves during the Winter?

    Josh

    halocline thanked greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Hi Josh,

    Right now I'm keeping them under my bonsai grow lights, that set-up is in front of an east facing sliding glass door.

    I've dealt w/ smaller B.C.'s before, they are notorious for having monster tap roots.

    The very 1st one I ever bought died because I removed too much root. The tree was only 5-6 inch's tall, the tap root was 1 1/2 feet long.

    I don't know, should I take a saw to the bottom 1/3? or bare root it, then do some root selection.

    Rob



  • 11 years ago

    I'd be inclined to saw off the bottom, then let the root-mass redevelop. Next re-potting won't be nearly as difficult.

    Josh

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Josh, (I was editing in a pic above at the same time you were posting)

    Rob

  • 11 years ago

    Anaerobic composting was the 1st thing that came to mind, but after removing it from the pot, the soil & roots looked fine.

    The problem must be related to something going on inside the root ball. Like I said above, when the soil was moderately dry, the outside smelled like soil.

    Rob

  • 11 years ago


    Ok guys, here are some pics of the root ball.

    Should I saw off the bottom 1/3, then remove the rest of the soil & re-pot?



    I was thinking of dunking the remaining root ball in a bucket of water to remove the soil, it seems to be mostly roots, I'm afraid using traditional tools will destroy many of the finer roots.

    Any ideas?


    Rob

  • 11 years ago

    My initial reaction is to say 'Yes,' but I would like to see what Al has to say first.

    Sure looks like plenty of root-mass to play with....

    Josh

    halocline thanked greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
  • 11 years ago

    Just found this thread. I talked a bit about your tree (immediately above) and the roots. The other tree has stellar potential insofar as the roots go. How is that tree doing? I didn't read the whole thread - just assuming we're talking about 2 different trees.


    Al

  • 11 years ago

    Hi there Al,

    I'm so sorry to here about your weather, you've been hit hard this time around.

    Thank you for your input. Yes these are 2 different trees, the 1st one is showing some new growth, but only on 7-8 branch tips, I'm not giving up though, I took 4 cuttings before it went down hill, they're doing great. I had big plans for that one, which is why I asked you about nebari in the first place, then suddenly dropped the subject.

    The 2nd one does need some pruning, but not as much as you would think. I'm going to take it back quite a way though, before I start on the roots. My Enonymus is the one I have to keep an eye on. I was hoping to try my first air layer on one of them. Sounds like you know numerous techniques on the subject.

    Btw, you guys ever find tiny snails on a tree?

    Thanks again

    Rob


Sponsored
Peabody Landscape Group
Average rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars8 Reviews
Franklin County's Reliable Landscape Design & Contracting