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Ataulfo mango tree looks pitiful

11 years ago

Hi

A 3-year Ataulfo mango tree looks pitiful now. By the end of last summer the tip all leaves turned brown, then a lot of them died. This how it looked last year:

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and how it looks now

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Should I remove the leafless "branches"?

I wonder why the preview button has been removed from this new version of Gardenweb!




Comments (13)

  • 11 years ago

    You might have to post photos directly. All I get are errors. Just click on the camera icon. It will download from your computer.

    I have one Autalfo/Champagne seedling I started last spring. I'm going to guess Jalilu,it needs more water. Did we ever talk about the quality of your water? Is it hard or salty? That could be a factor in leaf burn.

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks for replying. It works! I haven't posted pictures for a while. Anyway, this Houzz version still needs a Preview message button. Pictures are taken from opposite angles.

    Last year

    Now


    I am not sure whether it is water as, my Keitt is watered at the same time with the same water and its leaves don't show that scorched aspect. Same with my other mango trees. Could it be the sulfur sprayed in early autumn? Temperatures were a bit high, but again the Ataulfo is the only one who suffered.

    Unless the Ataulfo cultivar needs more water than others.

  • 11 years ago

    Stanofh

    Would you mind posting pictures of your Ataulfo seedling? I started mines a month ago. Can't wait to see it grow up.


  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    is there grass growing near the trunk ?
    whats the soi like ?
    You can p[ut your finger down an inch or so, to check moisture levels.
    it might not be that the Ataulfo is different,
    it might be the soil in that part of the yard is different
    holds water more, or less... has organic matter in it, mulch on top ? etc...
    or, different amount of sun ?

    its starting to warm up now and the demand for water is greater

    do you have mulch ?

  • 11 years ago

    DON'T cut the branches. Those are not dead. They look plump. If they brown and shrivel,THEN,they are dead. Its been many years since I tried sulpher on anything. It might have been too strong for the foliage.
    Other then that,it looks pretty good.
    Its sinking in that Morocco has a moderate climate looking at your yard. I think its on its way to be a nice small tree.
    In the tropics they do get big. I saw one on TV in the Yucatan that looked to be near 30' tall or more and had many of the tiny yellow Mangoes hanging like Christmas ornaments. It might have been the angle- but it looked to be much taller then wide.


  • 11 years ago

    jalilu - so hard to tell what's going on. Greenman asks a lot of good questions. Stan makes good points. Certainly DON'T fertilize at all at this point. The proper amount of watering, whether you are doing too little or too much, needs to be determined ASAP. The plant still has life in it. IS it possible some kind of toxic stuff is in the soil? Some paint bucket that recently got rinsed and dumped there or something?

  • 11 years ago

    Thank you all for your interest.

    Stan, weather varied a lot this year, with
    strong easterly wind and heavy rain. I heard that California is suffering from
    drought at the same time. Crazy weather! My potted lychee bloomed by the end of
    January, then rain killed all flowers. It bloomed again 2 weeks ago after I removed
    them. I wish that this lychee will set fruits after the subsequent bloom. A
    thunderstorm followed by tropical-like rain woke me up early this morning. Luckily,
    flowers are still there but some became tiny spherical buds (2 mm).

    Greeman, my problem happened in the early
    autumn, not now. The grass was closer than now. Since then, I removed some and
    it doesn’t grow further than the drip line. Some fava beans were planted on the
    north side. They will release nitrogen to the ground by the end of their life
    cycle. Soil is sandy, mulched with homemade compost and alfalfa pellets (not
    the ones for rabbits). Composted cow manure has been added a few weeks ago.
    Regarding water demand, maybe this one had not got the same amount of water, as
    we use hose irrigation. It gets the same amount of light as my adjacent Keitt. By
    the way, flower panicles emerge on this latter.

    Mangofang, I will not cut anything nor add fertilizer.
    Can I at least apply some micronutrients because this soil doesn’t contain enough
    zinc? I just purchased a product containing chelated boron, copper, iron,
    magnesium and manganese. We never dump any toxics in the yard nor use organochlorine
    pesticides. I will try to determine the right amount of water but I am
    wondering whether or not the watering method should not be changed, as the
    sandy soil quickly absorbs water. Maybe straw mulching is a good alternative
    because it decomposes slower than compost or manure and will reduce
    evaporation.

  • 11 years ago

    Mulching is GREAT for sandy soil - 4-6 inches would not be too much, though be sure to pull it back a few inches from the trunk to prevent root rot. I wouldn't apply any additives at this point, until you see some growth, but that's just my opinion. Let's see what Greenman or Stan thinks about that...

    Have you determined yet how far down into the soil it is damp when you stick your finger into it? And how often and how much DO you water, jalilu??And did you mention where you live yet?

  • 11 years ago

    Seems to be fantastic moderate weather for mangoes, in my humble opinion! The link didn't give amounts of rainfall. I'd be especially interested in your summer precipitation. By the way, have you found other mango growers there? That can be invaluable to tap there experience!

    And you never said how much and how often you do water when there hasn't be rain for awhile. I'm assuming you hand water and don't have an automated sprinkler system like I need out here in the desert....

  • 11 years ago

    Summers are dry. Average rainfall, including summer months can be viewed on Wikipedia-Tangier

    I hose-water each tree for a couple of minutes during dry periods, twice or three times per weeks, Sometimes more often when the summer dry easterling wind blows. Maybe the weather is ok but unfortunately the yard is surrounded by shading buildings in winter.

    There is no nursery in Morocco specialized in tropical fruits. However, I will go to Malaga (Spain) to purchase a NDM4 and a Carabao tree and get some information regarding fertilizing, watering and diseases. Unfortunately, Pickering, Angie or any other popular Floridian varieties, excepting Glenn (that I already have) can't be found in Spain.


  • 11 years ago

    Here it's how it is looking now. I guess the amount of water was the main problem.



  • 11 years ago

    I remember Jalilu thinking about my Sapote when young "wow,Its needs a lot of water"...2 decades later,I planted a Avocado and thought "wow,It needs lots of water". Now? I water them when i remember. I'm sure my Mango will be another that will able to get by on less water as a larger tree then it needed when newly planted.