Acer palmatum higayasayama if acer palmatums do ok in your neighborhood

how big is your yard.. and are you giving any thought.. to the fact that absolutely none of them will ever stop growing ...

i wonder if you are over planting????

would you rather fill the space.. then have to cut some down in a few years ... ???



ken

I have a 1/4 of a acre so yes I do have room.

I am making Mary's Garden and would like to put a small tree in it. It could not get any bigger than 10 feet tall for it would go under Electric lines. What would be a nice tree for that spot?

you arent listening ... no tree ... nor shrub.. nor conifer.. ever stops growing at some magical height ...


moms mary is under a vinyl trellis with clematis .... and no power line issues ...

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and we invested in the high cost of a vinyl gateway type ...becasue wooden ones rotted out every other year.. and the investment paid back within a few years ... in fact.. just last weekend ... i was looking at moms.. and thinking.. that thing must be 20 plus years old ...

it sounds like you have more trees than i do.. on my 5 acres ...

good luck ... BTW.. never heard that term before...

ken

Explain BTW

A maximum of 10' is tough for a tree but there are some that will stay at that size or very close to it (despite what Ken may say). Many grafted form weeping cherries will never exceed that height, depending on what and where the graft is located (a 5-6' graft is common, the canopy rising above that but seldom exceeding an additional 3-5' in height).

Some weeping forms of trees could certainly work. Virtually any of the dissectum types of Japanese maple with low grafts will stay under 10' - long term growth tends to be out, not up. Or 'Trost's Dwarf' weeping birch.

Otherwise, you could consider some tree-form shrubs. These are trained as a standard, often but not always grafted, and most can be pruned back as desired to maintain a set height. Shrubs that are often sold in this form (often called patio trees) are ninebark (Physocarpus), variegated willow (Salix integra 'Hakuro Nishiki'), Hydrangea paniculata, dwarf lilacs, wisteria, 'Little Twist' cherry (Prunus incisa), various viburnums and roses.

Ken is maybe warning us about tags that give 10 year height estimates. Conifers are often listed this way for some reason.

different trees get to different heights in different locations. I can plant a southern magnolia in a patio enclosure here but you probably should not in Alabama.

On the extreme, if you plant a sequoia you should plan on a 200 foot tree eventually. Plant a redbud and I plan on a 20 or 30 foot tree. Plant a shingle oak here and 90 foot tall by wide is possible in a lifetime.

Now my shingle oak and white ash have reached maturity. The both are technically growing still. Branches are getting longer each spring as buds expand and all. Its just the growth has slowed to six inches or so a year on the ash and a couple inches on the oak. EFFECTIVELY I believe the oak is past peak and actually getting smaller(!) thanks to branches breaking off.

Given things like the state champion tree list you can safely bet on the maximum size of any tree you plant even if technically it is still growing.

A top grafted Prunus pendula cultivar we used to have here decided to hoist itself up one year and started building height in about 3' increments.

Seattle has 'Pendula Plena Rosea' 16'-17' tall and 'Pendula Rubra' 23'-25' tall. The now common [Snow Fountains] = 'Snofozam' does seem to be kind of a shorty, but it hasn't been around as long as the others.

15' maximum height street tree requirements of public utilities here are being responded to by the creation and production of lollipop shrubs such as those mentioned above.

He already has 8 trees planted on a quarter acre, or a plot about 100' X100' or 10000 Sqft. He must have gotten those trees from the arbor day foundation if he thinks he has room for more trees. I just planted two small yoshino Cherries. They are about an inch in Diameter on the trunk, and already they area about 7 feet in diameter.

I had 14 trees growing in my old 6000sf garden - none were overly crowded nor was the property excessively shady. It depends entirely on what trees you choose and how well they grow in proximity. Only a couple were what could be considered large trees, the rest smaller growing understory trees or dwarf forms. Plus, I had another dozen or so growing in containers.

And yes, I planted them all, with the exception of the 80' Doug fir, over the course of some 30 years, but most rather early in the garden's development.

Good choices. You alredy have some good sources of f berries. Maybe an evergreen for winter shelter, or something that keeps berries in the winter? Holy or hawthorn?