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Brandy Boy Vs Red Brandy Master

I am at last posting this as promised.


I promised a comparison of the two from another thread.


Well I will be posting pics to this in a little while. I have some chores to do before I can post a whole lot more I am at this time just getting the thread started. I am trying to keep things as fair as I can given the conditions I have had to work with.


Sorry folks some things are just going to be a bit skewed this year. Brandy Master was started a couple of weeks before the Brandy Boy was. Brandy Boy was planted as soon as I had seeds for it. Seeds for both were purchased off of the store rack at either Home Depot, or Lowe's. The seeds for Brandy Master were on the shelf before the seed for Brandy Boy were so they were started earlier.


The lights used were standard 4 foot shop lights sold in the box stores. Bulbs are standard Phillips T8 Daylight bulbs. Price for the lights and the bulbs was around $25 or so for fixtures, and bulbs together. A small 6 inch oscilating fan was used to simulate wind, and keep up airflow. I use a large 20 inch box fan to move air into the closet to if it got above 80 inside for very long.


Both germinated in less than week in an area that was kept at around 80 or so degrees. I did not use bottom heat on either. I used Miracle Grow Organic Seed Starting Mix cut with a bit more perlite. I used mini green houses to start the seeds in. When they had a few sets of true leaves I potted them up to 20 ounce party cups with plenty of drain holes made with a soldering pencil. The distance from the lights to the plants was kept at 3 inches or so until they were moved to my reloading bench for the last 12 days before I was able to harden them off. At that point they did get leggy. (Sometimes it just works out that way. We had an unusualy long cold snap at the end of the winter this year. Though the weather was great afterwards so I will not fume over it.)


Both were kept under lights before hardening off. I ended up with both plants on the leggy side of things as I had to wait an extra week before starting the process to harden them off. I ran out of room under the lights in my closet, and had to move them to the shelf on my ammo reloading bench. All of my seedlings were bottom watered. I started all off on a dilution of Miracle Grow All Purpose (Blue Stuff) diluted to one quarter tea spoon to a gallon of water given when they had the first two full sets of true leaves. That was maintained until they had 4 full sets of true leaves. Then the fertilizer was picked up to half a teaspoon per gal. until they were planted out. All were potted up into my own 5-1-1 mix that used MG shake and feed for tomatoes mixed in.


Ok I will stop with the long winded part, and just post things. I like to give at least some of the back ground as best as I can from my scatter brained mind.

Comments (16)

  • 11 years ago

    I wanted to post some of the pics from germination to to the present, though it looks like that is not going to work as I had hoped it would due to the fact that all the pics I want to post have been deleted from the computer. I will do some pics of the plants in their present state in little while.

  • 11 years ago
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    Brandy Boy

    Another Brandy Boy








  • 11 years ago
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    Red Brandy Master


    Note that the Red Brandy Master is the one in the middle. To the left is Cherokee Purple, to the right is Old German.

  • 11 years ago

    The plants look nice but the two things I'm curious about are forking branch incidence and leaf type. I have plantings of BrandyBoy and BrandyMaster (regular pink with potato leaf). I prefer BrandyMaster because there is much less stem forking than with BrandyBoy but your experience may vary.

    From pictures of the red BrandyMaster it appears that those are regular leaf plants (like red Brandywine). Growth characteristics probably vary more between your trail plants. Do you have any Prudens Purple or Pink Potato Top plants in your garden? I believe those potato leaf varieties (all with pink fruit) will come closer to the hybrids in yield than Brandywine but BrandyMaster would still get my vote for best of these named.

  • 11 years ago

    "(VF)-This modern strain of classic Brandywine delivers world famous flavor packed into medium to large fruits, unrivaled among similar varieties. Red fruits weigh up to one pound with firm, juicy flesh and an incredible, rich tomato taste. Potato-leaved plants do well under a wide range of conditions. Fruits mature later in northern areas."

    I agree - the above description of Red BrandyMaster from seed catalogs indicates potato-leafed plants??

  • 11 years ago

    My Brandy Boys (2) went into the garden yesterday. They were sown outside in half-gallon jugs on April 11, sprouted April 21 and were about two inches tall when they went in the ground. I'm a wintersower, so I generally don't baby my plants too much, but this is the smallest and earliest I've ever exposed a plant to the wilds of 20x30 garden. I did cover with an inverted, wire-mesh wastebasket in case the rabbits came calling.

    Are brandy boys supposed to be potato leaf? Got the seeds at HD and mine are.

    Caryl

    P.S. I don't have an ammo reloading bench. Had to settle for the kitchen island then the patio lol


  • 11 years ago
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    Cary, That is very interesting and good luck !
    Yes, BrBoy has Potato Leaf ( Just like his mama . hehe)

    Sey

  • 11 years ago

    I can say that RBM is out producing Brandy Boy by a very wide margin. The plant is a lot bigger as well. It is taller, and more bushy. The fruit is more of a round body with slight ridges on the shoulders. Brandy Boy has more of the original shape of the Brandy Wine parent.

    The next evaluation is the one that is the most subjective. Taste. I will still keep updating with some pics, and information. I will review the tomatoes for taste when I get ripe ones.

    Nate


  • 11 years ago

    And please report on productivity and disease issues too.

  • 11 years ago

    Some photos to substantiate your results would be helpful - for example - when you say RBM is out producing Brandy Boy by a very wide margin - what does that mean? RBM has two tomatoes and Brandy Boy one - haha. Photos of their trusses would be helpful to compare. They appear to be both very young plants and it is most likely too early to draw any conclusions? Is RBM potato leaf or regular leaf - it appears regular leaf in the photo above?

  • 11 years ago

    Hudson I will post the pictures when I can use a better camera, and upload them. Right now all I can use is my phone. It may be days before my home internet is working again. Due to the freeway expansion they have torn down the lines. An inattentive crane operator has caused half of the city to be without internet since yesterday. At least they had our power back on by this morning.

  • 11 years ago

    That explains things - glad you have power! I am interested in RBM - especially if it is out producing Brandy Boy by a very wide margin! I hope your comparison saves me the time doing the same thing and that is why I am requesting more detailed information. BTW - all the photos I post on this forum are taken with my phone camera. Tks!

  • 11 years ago

    I have never seen either seed at any seed rack but I'm still looking. Would like to try either one.

  • 11 years ago

    Hudson at the present the photos posted in this thread have been done with my phone cam. The thing is it is not easy to hold it, and take a clear shot up close with one hand, while the other hand is holding branches out of the way.

    Though some pics of production will be coming. I had to give RBM a hair cut due to heavy wind that broke a few branches off, and trimming off some that were showing the start of septoria. I have been using a lot of Daconil so far. I can say it has done well for me. This time last year septoria was a major problem. A couple of the plants seemed to just grow faster than the septoria could spread. It has been wet here for a week. Short severe spats of rain, with gale force winds, then followed by a day and a half of misty, and overcast.


  • 11 years ago


    About half the early fruit set.





    A truss of RBM.







    A third party comparison with Bush Goliath. A nice productive compact work horse.

  • 11 years ago

    but then I have consistent trusses every 3rd branch on every stem
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I think that is the most common indet grow habit :

    LBranch - LBranch - LBranch -Truss

    Sey


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