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May Jades

I am going to post a few jades now. It's the first time I've taken my own photos for the forum, I'm thrilled to know I can do it, and will improve as time goes on.

The first pictures are of my little sport that I found on a cutting from a plant of my sister's. My gardening son, who has, but does not suffer from, a condition on the autistic spectrum has named it 'Paddy'. Kaktuskris said once he thought it would turn red eventually - it in fact has turned a beautiful raspberry colour under the leaves, while none of the other variegates have responded to the sunlight very much yet. You must be a bit clairvoyant, Christopher :)

Comments (45)

  • 11 years ago

    Crassula ovata 'Pink Beauty', which came a short while ago from Italy.

  • 11 years ago

    Crassula arborescens 'Bluebird'. This is a small plant from my original which I bought in England a few years ago.

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    This plant, Crassula ovata 'Hobbit' variegata, has a much looser habit of growth than my Red Horn Tree.

  • 11 years ago

    This is Crassula ovata minor, just getting some red on the leaf edges now.

  • 11 years ago

    Here is the Crassula ovata 'Red Horn Tree' which came from France in the spring. As you can see, it has lost its vibrant colours, which will return in a couple of months, no doubt.

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    This is one of my variegated jades.

    And this is the plain green version of the above - Crassula ovata ssp. obliqua.

  • 11 years ago

    I think this is Crassula ovata 'Gollum', or is it a fingers jade?

  • 11 years ago

    Crassula ovata 'Hummel's Ghost', also much less variegated than it hopefully will be in a month or so.

  • 11 years ago

    The original, and still one of the best, Crassula ovata.

  • 11 years ago

    This plant poses a bit of a puzzle for me. It came from Spain as Crassula ovata variegata, but although it is growing, the internodes are still very short. I'm beginning to suspect it is some kind of dwarf Crassula ovata.

  • 11 years ago

    This plant is still just a rooted cutting, a Crassula arborescens, which may be an alternative 'Bluebird'. It's just that I haven't found any C. arborescens just like it yet anywhere online. It came from a botanist.

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    If anyone has any thoughts on any of the above plants, I would be pleased to hear them, particularly on the last two.

  • 11 years ago

    Great collection you have there Margaret, I didn't realise you had so many varieties! They are all so very different from each other aren't they? I am not very good in identifying some of the types seen on the forum as the plants can vary so much within a particular species depending on many factors such as temp, light, food etc, so I leave that job to the experts :)

    My internet is playing up big time so I've not been on-line for a while, I just have to spy my chance and log on when I get the blue light, lol. Take care :)

    Gill UK

  • 11 years ago

    Hi Gill, the cuttings that we talked about are rooting, and I will fairly soon be able to send them to you. I still get very confused, particularly about Gollum/Hobbit/Finger jades. Have you got a handle on those?

  • 11 years ago

    I'm rather new to jades and still trying to learn, so your pictures and names helped me a lot. Thank you for posting them. They're all beautiful. My favorite is the little sport, how exciting!

  • 11 years ago

    Yes, stonetreehouse, I do love it - it was so tiny I can't believe it's growing so well now. One thing I like particularly is that the variegation is quite regular, no mixed-type variegation on different leaves. Thank you for the nice comment.

  • 11 years ago

    Margaret, fantastic collection! Good job on the photos :) The Crassula ovata 'Hobbit' variegata is especially spectacular, looks like its been tie-dyed. Each and every one of your variegated jades are very pretty. I'm glad you can enjoy the raspberry coloring on your variegated find (Paddy), it has a nice glow. I really love your large variegated jade as well, do you have a photo of the entire plant? It is very statuesque.

  • 11 years ago

    Nice collection you have there, Margaret.

    So did you say Paddy came from a green obliqua? As it does look a lot like Tricolor, especially now that it has some nice red on the leaves. By the way, I did tell you I was a bit psychic, I believe.

    That arborescens with the long leaves looks interesting. So is what you call a variegated Hobbit really different from Red Horn Tree?

    Christopher


  • 11 years ago

    Wonderful collection Marguerite. You did a great job with the photos! I was wondering the same thing as Christopher about the difference in Hobbits.

    The last one you posted is the same one I have that I sent Nancy. I believe it was identified as C. arborescens spp. arborescens 'Bluebird'. I really loved this one. It gets nicely contrasted red margins.

    -Erica

  • 11 years ago

    Nancy, I will show another picture of the variegated Crassula ovata ssp obliqua for you shortly. Yes, Erica, I knew that cutting at the end was a C. arborescens, and from your pictures and a couple of others, I guessed it was 'Bluebird' . The fourth picture from the top was sold to me under the same name - so maybe there are different types of 'Bluebird' - still, they do not really resemble each other except that they are C. arborescens. I love these puzzles.

    Also, the variegated Hobbit was labelled as a variegated Gollum, which it is not, obviously, but its habit is different from the Red Horn Tree, which I believe is also a Hobbit. Nancy's Hobbit in her thread of last night has long leaves and looks different too from other Hobbits I have seen online - I know there has been a debate on the forum about how feeding has some influence on leaves in this respect; but the Red Horn Tree I own is more rigid somehow in growth than the variegated Hobbit, less plastic. I look forward to seeing how they differ after the summer.

    Christopher, the problem about the origins of Paddy are as follows, years ago I gave my sister two green Crassulas, both the same, ovatas, and a tricolor. Hers all grew huge and are always smothered in flowers. After losing a lot of my green jades one bad winter, my sister returned several cuttings to me, and I spotted a tiny variegated apical piece on one. This I nursed, and for two years it hardly grew, then suddenly last summer began to grow to where it is now. Although I believed it came from a C. ovata, there is no doubt the points on the leaves and their shape are more as if Paddy sprouted from an oblique type. However, the leaves have a very regular shape and the variegation so far is totally predictable. I suppose since the oblique-leaved green jade probably came from a C. ovata, Paddy doing so would not be that surprising. There the matter rests for the moment, future developments of this little plant will be interesting.


    Erica, does your Crassula arborescens 'Bluebird' have indentations on the leaves? I can't recall.

    Thanks, everyone, for the comments.

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    Nancy, here is an older photo of the same plant from early February, sorry it's so dark. The second picture was taken from the top, to give you some idea of the size. The plant is not very tall, approximately one foot high only.

  • 11 years ago

    Margaret, thank you posting these photos! The leaves look like brush strokes, with an artist touch of a shimmery highlight. It really is grand, its the perfect size, on its way to being a mature jade. love it.
    My Hobbit from last night, I do wonder how it may color up. It is part of my reasoning behind buying from different sources, as it could be different. Plus it looked healthy and robust.

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    All your plants look very healthy. About your long-leaved Crassula ovata, I found one recently on line a bit paler than the normal ovata - if yours bleaches out it may be Crassula ovata pallida. I'll have a looksee if I can find it again for you. Thanks for liking the last photo, by the way, Nancy.

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    I found the plant on Glasshouseworks - I'll give you the link here:

    http://www.glasshouseworks.com/succulents/succulents-b-c?page=2

    There are three pics. two of Crassula ovate pallida, the third, main picture is something else altogethe, obviously an errorr. The leaves do look pale, but if yours is otherwise like it, it could be it. Time will tell about the colouring.

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Margaret for the link & info, I saw the photos you were referring to... I would be happy if it were a different cultivar. Yes, just time will tell.

  • 11 years ago

    The best way to tell is the grow them side by side for some time! I suspect a paler leaf/plant would have just not had the same sun exposure as the more vibrant green you normally see with regular C. ovata.

    I wouldn't say that site is very reliable in their identifications. While the paler jade may quite possibly be another variety, their information looks a bit off for most of their jades and if you type Crassula pallida in to google, that's the only source of information for that ID (this was a quick/hasty search, mind you!).

    -Erica

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    Hi Marguerite, I have the constant blue light on the router at the moment so can type away for a second or two, so speed is of the essence! Yes, I 'think' I can ID the Gollums of this world as they have sucker like ends on the leaves, Hobbits tend to be more folded with openings on the undersides.....finger jades I'm not too certain about mind you! Happy to hear the cuttings have begun to root :)) Must press submit before t'internet bunks off for the night, lol, speak soon.

    Gill UK

  • 11 years ago

    Sometimes you get both sucker-like leaves and the ear-like ones on the same plant, that's the difficulty for me. I think it was kaktuskris who told me that the leaves in the majority give the name, The Gollum above has lots of skinny-fingered leaves as well, further confusing me. Sorry you're having internet problems, Gill. Maybe they'll settle now the election is over :)

  • 11 years ago

    Margaret, here is my 'Waves' putting out some nice new growth where I took a cutting...

    And here is a shot of my Gollum leaves...you can see a Hobbit type leaf on the right, a double leaf on the left, and various sucker type leaves...A cool plant.

    Christopher

  • 11 years ago

    Great collection!

    The image posted Thursday at 1:16 is 'Red Horn Tree' I'm convinced.

    Josh

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Nancy, Gill, Erica, stonehousetree, Christopher and Josh for the interesting comments. Those new Waves leaves are a lovely colour, Christopher. So that plant with all the different leaves, which of the names do you give it?

    You may well be right, Josh, I just bought a 'proper' Hobbit so I can compare them all.

  • 11 years ago

    The distinctive tip-margin and the light color just before the tip is a dead giveaway :-)

    Josh

  • 11 years ago

    I believe I made it clear that my Jade is a Gollum, Marguerite....


    Christopher

  • 11 years ago

    Obviously not clear enough for me, then, Christopher. I'm just a bit slow processing information sometimes.

    Hi Hamza, long time no see. Thanks for the comment. I was surprised Pink Beauty looks so dark in actuality. How are all your plants doing?

  • 11 years ago

    No, Marguerite, it was me being too terse in my comment, sorry.

    Christopher


  • 11 years ago

    Gerraway outa that, Christopher. you've nothing to be sorry for. You spoke your mind - I do the same often - and I don't even notice usually. We're all pals on this forum, I think. No need to watch everything we say.

  • 11 years ago

    This is only easy-to-find tricolor; after pruning some branches away in Sept. 2014,this little 'sprout' started growing in Nov. 2014. It is still same color it started - pale yellow, with a very little green on one leave. It has grown little and just starting to get some light pink 'blush'.

    Small clipping was stuck in the same pot, it is coloring nicely too:

    Here is the rest of the plant from top:
    The plant is still inside, with some supplemental lights.

    Rina

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    Very pretty, Rina. The leaves on the larger plant seem to have a twist. What supplemental lighting do you use?

  • 11 years ago

    Margaret,
    Thank you; the leaves have little twist but I am not sure if that's common or not. I use 23W (equal to 100W incandescent) CFL bulbs;l I have few vanity light strips with 4-6 bulbs each. I believe they are 4100k, 1650 lumens each.
    Rina


  • 11 years ago

    Morning Margaret

    The jades are doing very well all are rooting well and growing happy the only one that did not grow was the cutting from your sisters plant.

    I will have to post some pictures and show you :)

  • 11 years ago

    Was that the variegated one, Hamza? I'm sure I will be able replace it in a month or so if growth continues as it is going. How is your Swiss plant doing? I love updates, look forward to photos of your collection :)

  • 11 years ago

    Reading this thread again for purposes of posting a link on Neil's thread of today, I should update my information on the Variegated Hobbit/Red Horn Tree question. It is not a variegated Gollum, as we all know, and probably a Red Horn Tree. Seller was not familiar with that name. As summer came on I realised they were the same, and now wonder if there is some kind of plant patent issue here, and one is not allowed sell Red Horn Tree under that name without a licence. Would that be a possibility, does anyone know?

  • 11 years ago

    Marguerite,

    Your plants are beautiful. Especially Paddy. I must say, I really like that you say your son has - but does not suffer from - Autism Spectum Disorder. I am a behavioral therapist, working towards my PhD in school psychology with a specific interest in working with children with ASD. They each amazing in their own unique way. And, for me, nothing is as reinforcing as working with this population. One of my superiors believes that ASD is an evolution and we will one day see all the benefits of it. It's a great perspective.

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks for that extremely interesting comment, Deva. Something to mull over.

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