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Please somebody can identify this tree?

11 years ago

Hi experts,

If somebody can help me identify this tree? I tried a lot with different leaf and tree identification but i could not find it. Looks like maple tree but its upright and big burgundy color leaves .

Please see attached pictures for ideas.


thank you,

Danny


Comments (24)

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Where do you live? It looks like a Crimson type Norway but not the same leaf. I'm concerned about the drops of what looks like honey dew. Do you have aphids or some other insect problem?

    dval_dpal thanked Arborist
  • 11 years ago

    thank you for reply arborist,

    I live in Georgia, USA zone 7b. This tree are in church near by my home. Both tree looks healthy. I really want this tree to grow in my front yard. Its root are not on surface and very well behaved. I like it because leaf change colored to dark burgundy for summer. I checked leaf with other maple but dose not look same.

  • 11 years ago

    its not old enough for the root problems ... if it is a norway ...

    other named red at link

    ken

    https://www.google.com/search?q=red+norway+maples&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8


    dval_dpal thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 11 years ago

    thank you ken,

    If you have noticed leaf structure is different then norway maple or red norway.

  • 11 years ago

    The types of maples that produce red foliage during the growing season (rather than in fall) are very limited. Despite the name, 'red' maples don't have red foliage but red petioles and flowers. And often great red fall coloring.
    The only species that comes to mind with red leaves during the growing season (other than the Asian maples, which this tree definitely is not) are Norway maples.

    Leaf detail can be somewhat variable and could be affected by some cold weather as the tree was budding out or even insect damage but I'd put bucks on the fact that this is a Norway maple.

    Another non-typical Norway leaf

    dval_dpal thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Definitely not norway maple. I think it's from the Acer subgenus of acer, but I can't say which species. Probably some asian species, rare in the west

    Did all leafes have seven lobes? There is a "redish" form of sycamore maple, but is has five lobed leafes. Otherwise quite similar to this tree, but I don't know if it can handle the hot and humid climate of Georgia.

    dval_dpal thanked Huggorm
  • 11 years ago

    I'll put bucks on the fact that this is a Norway maple.

    Am not sure why the poster made that statement. We have seen neither seed nor leaf image, nor tree habit of Norway Maple on this thread, not even close.

    dval_dpal thanked sam_md
  • 11 years ago

    And don't forget the bark


    dval_dpal thanked Huggorm
  • 11 years ago

    When the seeds fall off the tree plant a few and in a couple of years you may have a tree similar to the original tree. They may be a hybrid that you cannot buy. Just a thought.

    dval_dpal thanked wayne
  • 11 years ago

    Leaf is quite like that of a red Japanese maple.


    dval_dpal thanked Embothrium
  • 11 years ago

    The seeds also are more similar to Japanese maples than to Norway maples IME.

    dval_dpal thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 11 years ago

    The leaf seem pretty thick to be a japanese maple but the shape is right. The shape of the tree make me think it is pretty mature, it will not grow much larger


    dval_dpal thanked Huggorm
  • 11 years ago

    The serrate leaves mean it's NOT a Norway Maple. My vote is for one of the Asian Maples as well...leaf and seeds look most like Acer palmatum.

    dval_dpal thanked Smivies (Ontario - 5b)
  • 11 years ago

    look like trees are mature and old about 15 to 20 years. Also i see seeds on ground but not germinate and i also do not see any other small siblings around it. I will take more close pictures of bark, leaf, stump, seeds and ground around tree to help identify. Thank you all.

  • 11 years ago

    That leaf shape is all wrong for Norway maple. Further, you would have noticed white, milky sap when you plucked the leaf off the tree if it had been NM, but it's not. as to what it is, I don't know, but def. some kind of maple. Never saw that leaf before.

    +oM

    dval_dpal thanked wisconsitom
  • 11 years ago

    Low forking trunk is like Japanese maple also - what is less usual is the stout-looking, erect branching but this much cultivated species is highly variable. In fact one of its synonyms is A. polymorphum. Related Asian maples are much less prevalent and not expected to be seen with purple leaves.


    dval_dpal thanked Embothrium
  • 11 years ago

    Thank you all for input. I got chance to get more pictures . Please check this . All leaves are not same as new leaf and mature leaf. And yes i saw aphids on it too.


  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Those leaves are more characteristic for acer palmatum "Atropurpureum"

    dval_dpal thanked Huggorm
  • 11 years ago

    dval,

    I would describe your Japanese Maple as Acer palmatum var. atropurpureum. The accurate posters have already suggested this.

    It is normal to observe some leaf variation on a single tree. We have a Yellow buckeye near me that some leaves have 5 leaflets, some have 6.

    You have a common, garden variety tree. Japanese maples are really popular in the modern landscape because many suburbanites live in small lots and are not looking for large shade trees like oaks and elms. Japanese Maples suit such small scale properties.

    dval_dpal thanked sam_md
  • 11 years ago

    thank you all for valuable comments. Its now know as Acer palmatum var. atropurpureum, i will try to grow from this cutting because i don't know plant will be same from seed. Here most of growers sells bloodgood variety.

    Thank you.

  • 11 years ago

    First leaf photo was NOT at all characteristic of a Japanese maple, as is clearly evident by the subsequent photos showing more foliage detail (and necessary scale).

    The sarcasm is unnecessary and not appreciated.


  • 11 years ago

    dval,

    If you are still with us check out 'Utsu semi' cv of Japanese Maple. As you can see, JM's have a variety of leaf shapes: Acer palmatum 'Utsu semi'

    dval_dpal thanked sam_md
  • 11 years ago

    thank you sam, I will defiantly look in to it.

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