Howard
I think they are difficult to ID - I have couple of plants that look very similar. In both cases it was suggested that either one of them is PvN, or could be E. gibbiflora metallica.
I keep this one as PvN (could be E.g.metallica):

and this one E. gibbiflora metallica (could be PvN):

Photo of the second plant is just month after purchasing from greenhouse grower, so it looks very nice.
Hope someone will shed light on it...Rina

Rina, this is what I've been calling Echeveria gibbiflora 'Metallica' for years. Your second one looks like something else if the color is true.

this is my pvn.looking closely i would say yes, they are all the same except possibly rina's greenhouse grown. and that of course is probably only because of cultural conditions.

rina is that amethyst close to the actual colour?

bikerdoc, i would like some of your extra echs.

Daves, be happy to work something out but you must write me your interests at: LASSERH@HOTMAIL.COM. I don't communicate publicly.

Ok, what"s a PvN? Is that the name of the plant? Or does it stand for something?

it stands for Perle von Nurnberg, the name of this type of echeveria

Thanks! I should have been able to figure that out considering I have a couple of those plants.

Howard, dave
That was the color when I bought it, 3 wks later (staying outside) it started to color up, more like PvN:

I always assumed it is PvN, just being more compact and different color since it was grown under totally different conditions.
While they look (almost) identical to me, one has (I think) just a little more "pinched" tips of leaves. Maybe I am just seeing things...
Rina

PvN is highly variable according to growing conditions. The first photo looks like it.

But there is also Duchesse von Nurnberg, which is similar in colouring and shape to Perle von Nurnberg - whether one is a seedling of the other I don't know.

Rina, I like that initial color. Soft lavender. I saw an ech in my garden with mundane olive leaves and wondered why I bought it. Then new center
leaves began to grow and they are that beautiful grey blue powder.....now I remember. :]

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Yes, that color was main reason I got it in the first place (and then size, and price...:-)
It isn't that pretty any more, got very etoliated over the winter and also much more pink - looks just like PvN.
here is a young plant - PvN - grown from the leave, it has just a touch of that color; I guess it is showing a bit of it's parentage:

Rina

Pretty! It has a nice grey blue. I guess, they are quite variable in stages.

My PvN is a crested form and is beginning to color up. It looks a little weird halfway in between green and lavender. The stones are a temporary anchor.

Tracy

Tracy
That is very nice plant! Do you keep it inside or oudoors?
I like crested succulents, but not having luck finding them...

Rina

Thank you, Rina. This plant is indoors for the time being. I just acquired this earlier this spring (it was an eBay find) and it was almost completely green. I have put it under lights to get some of the true coloring that these beauties can bring. I have a serious weakness for crested Echeveria.

I am gathering materials to set up a protected area outside but it seems to have been raining now for about 30 straight days. Everything is flooded and the weeds in the flower beds are rampant!

Tracy

Howard your coloring looks similar to Rina's first image. The shape does look much like the normal part of my crested plant. I would label this as PvN until the coloring proves otherwise.