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Anyone have new fridge with 2014 NEC required AFCI and GFCI breakers?

11 years ago

Does anyone have a new refrigerator and have the AFCI/GFCI required breakers, as of the 2014 NEC? If so, what brand and model do you have?

We bought a Samsung refrigerator and we remodeled our kitchen starting in January, and we have to follow 2014 NEC, which requires all new outlets to have AFCI in them and all outlets w/in 6 or 8 feet of a sink must have GFCI. The fridge trips the breaker every day, the fridge hasn't worked 24 hours in the almost 3 weeks we've had it installed, until we used an extension cord to plug it into a non-AFCI/GFCI plug. Samsung has been out 4 times and after the technical mgr talked to his supervisor on the phone, found out he got a new fridge and ended up going back to a regular breaker.

Seems like some/all new refrigerators will have a problem with the new regulations... We've been told by our contractor, other chief building officers/inspectors, omultiple electricians, now Samsung and multiple places online to just get it to pass code and then have an electrician switch it back to a regular outlet...

Not sure what it is about the fridge that is making it do that! Seems like some kind of cycle that happens every 24 hours is causing it to arc, like maybe a defrost cycle? Anyone else have that happen?

Or anyone have a new fridge on an AFCI/GFCI that is working just fine? Maybe Samsung and only certain other brands will have trouble?Not sure what to do...I hate to go against code, but not sure of the alternative... (we are planning to stay forever, but what would you do if you want to move? Do you have to get it up to code? But then the fridge won't work???)

Comments (12)

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    We don’t have that where I live only that the fridge be on its own circuit I just did a clients kitchen reno this was not in that.

  • 10 years ago

    Did you ever get this problem resolved? We're having the same problem with our Samsung on GFCI. Not sure if we somehow need to find a fridge that works with GFCI, or just use an outlet without it.

  • 10 years ago

    Ashley, our only "solution" was to have it inspected on the GFCI/AFCI outlet, after flipping the breaker back because it of course tripped overnight ( and had to do it 2 weeks apart because our project failed final inspection...) then have an electrician come out and put in a "regular" breaker...

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, that helps us out!

  • 10 years ago
    That fine as long as it doesn't start the fridge on fire from the arc that's tripping it or electrocute one of your children
  • PRO
    10 years ago
    Motors should never be plugged into a gfi or arc fault breaker, recipe for disaster. Pass inspection then switch out for a regular breaker. Did the same thing with my ge fridge.
  • 10 years ago

    We just bought a brand new Samsung refrigerator and our house is also brand new with all the new GFCI breaker requirements. Our fridge has tripped the breaker twice and both times we were out of town - so all the food had to be tossed. I'll be switching to a non-gfci breaker this week to prevent this from happening again.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Between 2006 and 2010 2 people die from Refrigerator fires. A large percentage were caused by overheated compressors doubtful Arc fault breakers would have prevented. Ever year 12,000 people die from fallen down stairs. If you even been down basement stairways you will see they are some of the most dangerous. Lets not get into how many may die from spoil food. Seems like this may cost many more lives than it saves. When they right a law should be required to prove it is cost effective net gain of saving lives . Would seriously like to see any proof this saves any lives.

  • 9 years ago

    UGH! We are having this problem with our 6 month old Samsung Washer! We have had it for 6 months no problem, then all of a sudden it would start tripping the breaker, called Samsung for service not knowing the GFCI issues and they told me to call and electrician!.. I was not happy, how about you make a product that doesn't have this issue.. now I have to incur the time and expense of calling an electrician and having this done.. no matter how small the cost, it the principal, I have been without a washer now for 2 weeks because they then said they would send a technician out, but couldn't get a service appt for a week, he was here 5 minutes and told me about the outlet issue and Samsung appliances..told me to have an electrician switch the outlet out from a GFCI to a regular outlet.. I doubt I will ever buy another Samsung product again!

  • 7 years ago

    Kitchen remodel and had to have dual function (AFCI/GFCI) breakers installed. Now my 8 year old Samsung refrigerator trips from every 12 minutes to a couple of hours. Works Ok for days with extension cords to bathroom and laundry room old GFCI's. City Electrical Inspector says he can't defer from Code. Have talked to an appliance service and the Samsung service and they don't even want to come out. Both said the Fridge should not be on these new circuit breakers. Catch-22!

  • 7 years ago

    We have the new breakers installed I think 5 years ago. I checked our refrigerator circuit is on the old standard style breaker.

    The GFCI breaker is a ground fault breaker meaning that it senses any current flowing in the safety wire indicating a short. The AFCI breaker senses an arc like you'd get if you yank a plug out of the wall while the device is on. I'm wondering if a lightning arrestor would eliminate this problem. I'm guessing that when the motor turns on it causes an arc.

    The component in the multi wire adapters that gives you lightning protection is called a varistor, (MOV). You can install it in the box your frig is plugged into or at the circuit breaker, but I don't know what the codes position is on this.

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