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Can you top this?

11 years ago

Most bathroom cabinetry was installed yesterday for master bath remodel in second home. Check out how they did the cutout for the outlet inside the medicine cabinet -- I guess in case we wanted a second outlet...

They never said anything--about that or other aspects of the install...or asked me to inspect what they had done or told me they were leaving--just left. I noticed the noise, traffic in/out of garage had stopped. Went looking for them and...nothing.

Comments (29)

  • 11 years ago
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    ill tell u what, next time hire professionals, skip the handyman price vortex. That's ugly and totally avoidable in the professional world, but hey, at least this handyman displayed foreward type thinking and didnt charge you for the extra labor to cut a second flawless hole......

  • 11 years ago
    Dude, they ARE professionals...
    they have a big cabinet design business in this area for kitchens and baths----19 reviews on Houzz--all positive of course...
  • 11 years ago

    A kitchen design company can hire unskilled labor to install but that doesn't make them professionals.

  • 11 years ago
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    If they are advertizing on Houzz, perhaps photographs of their workmanship could be linked to their business so that others can see the kind of "attention to detail" the company provides for their customers. No need to post a bad review ... let the pictures of their workmanship do the talking.

  • 11 years ago

    You should speak to the company before doing anything else.

  • 11 years ago

    Dude, they ARE professionals...
    they have a big cabinet design business in this area for kitchens and baths----19 reviews on Houzz--all positive of course...

    I would hope, not anymore. And yes; I can top that.

  • 11 years ago

    Heck,those boys may top it themselves on the next job. LOL

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    one screw inside the hole and one out, good job!

  • 11 years ago

    i cant wait to see where this post goes.

  • 11 years ago

    Is that outlet even in a box? It doesn't look like there's enough depth for a box.

  • 11 years ago

    Awesome craftsmanship.

  • 11 years ago
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    For jobs like that, I usually use an axe.

    For the outlets, I use nails, makes for a cleaner install.

  • 11 years ago
    This house has concrete block exterior--and that wall is exterior. The electricians had to chisel/cut holes in the cement block to position the electrical boxes...
    Doing that without knowing how the medicine cabinets would really be installed (since they hadn't been delivered yet) was as much act of faith as science...
  • PRO
    11 years ago

    You haven't seen anything yet. Wait until you put the coverplate on and the receptacle is uneven. You can't put an ear outside the box and one inside, with drywall screws no less, and expect it to be even. Then there's the out-of-level thing...

  • 11 years ago
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    I had a phone conversation with her today==they are going to put in a new back to the cabinet--she offeedr to put on a switch cover initially...to cover the second hole but I said--not my husband's mistake, why should he have to look at that...

    the electricians have to come back to finish their install-- should I send pictures of this work to the electrician who bid the job? He did not come on intial install but his guys are good...


  • 11 years ago
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    I am real confused by this whole thing, I thought it was something stupid you were sharing but now your talking about these guys being 'pros' installing that outlet inside an exterior concrete block wall.... Really....? No normal stud walls or insulation in this "bathroom" as well? Is this what you wanted?

  • 11 years ago

    I would say the outlet should be surface mounted. I looks like it's inside the cabinet.

    The situation is confusing cause you're giving mixed messages.

  • 11 years ago
    This house in in Sarasota area Fl...built in 70s... None of exterior walls have any insulation... Do you expect us to tear down sheetrock to add insulation when we have very few days of freezing weather??

    The electricians (to my knowledge) did not use those screws -- they didn't "fix" the outlets to the CB walls just left them loose in the opening so there was some room to maneuver once the medicine cabinets were on site.

    Re the "professional" install. These people have been in business for like 15 yrs. They are not GCs but kitchen/bathroom cabinet suppliers...they carry various lines...they spec the space, order from mfg, and do the install. There are some other aspects of the process that we are unhappy about as well... She ordered a drawer stack that was too wide and would have been so close to the toilet it would not have passed code. The guy doing the demo and tile work discovered that when he was marking spaces on the wall. Her comment was "where did I get that 15"? --
    They are horrible at communicating and poorly organized. But they had good recommendations.
    I am also concerned about how the sink plumbing fits inside the vanity box on both sides... It looks like they did not plan for the space to be so small--just one door vs two because of the two-drawer stack. The cabinet guys moved one waste pipe at an angle vs 90 degrees and the hot/cold lines seem very close to either the boxes or the waste pipes...
    When they have your money, you have to make the best of of bad decision.
  • 11 years ago
    Sorry
    Two pix --same box
    This is other side
    The hot water line is right along the drawer side. My SIL said getting a fitting on it would likely be difficult because no room to attach anything w/o cutting out the drawer side.
    So I am thinking we need to call plumber to come out and inspect.
  • 11 years ago
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    I don't know if this tops it, but here are some pictures from the bathrooms in my current house (now both demolished) that had been recently remodeled prior to my buying the house. One of them was finished the day of closing. Medicine cabinet recessed into heating duct, junction box for the bathroom vanity light hanging by the wires, attached to an old framing member not attached to anything, two fan motors, both live, one buried in the ceiling, neither attached to the outgoing exhaust duct.

    Then there was the tile, and the wall that had been framed over the new tile and over carpet in the bedroom. That paint smear on the rug is where the baseboard was. And for some reason this part of the wall was nine inches thick, and still managed to be understructured.

    Notice the joists that had been completely hacked away to run two small supply lines.

    Based upon everything I've found in this house, which I am essentially gutting in a sequential fashion, I am positive that the previous owner found the cheapest contractor to do everything. But I think that's what a lot of people do. The contractors were probably licensed, although I'm sure no permits were pulled for any of it. (This is very common for kitchen and bath remodels here, no permits pulled) The homeowner knew they were getting cheap work, but I doubt they knew they were getting dangerous work.

  • 11 years ago

    @loves2read: I don't understand why you posted this? What a waste of time for people trying to help you.

  • 11 years ago

    Wow palim, that is horrible on so many levels!

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    "The cabinet guys moved one waste pipe at an angle vs 90 degrees and the hot/cold lines seem very close to either the boxes or the waste pipes..."


    Cabinet guys aren't allowed to move pipes under Florida contracting law. Only a licensed plumber can do that.

  • 11 years ago
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    I'd bet the whole job isn't permitted.

  • 11 years ago
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    From another thread from the same OP, same topic ...

    "There was nothing in the permit they had that required it and the inspector has been out twice ..."

  • 11 years ago

    I have to say that I have experienced everything from an inspector giving no more than a cursory glance to two inspectors bickering over whether they thought a kitchen faucet with one handle had ergonomics that reflected the relative positions of hot and cold on a two handled faucet and refusing to sign off on a kitchen because they couldn't agree, in the same county.

  • 11 years ago
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    "So I am thinking we need to call plumber to come out and inspect."

    I suggest getting them out of your house altogether and having everything they did inspected.

    When you get reports from that, let the State and local authorities know about the quality of work this licensed, professional company is delivering.

  • 11 years ago

    You are basically looking at work by a person that could not properly work on their own house and they care far less about your house. How much are they paying you to ruin the house?