planting now is fine ...

where in z5.. its half the US

but i couldnt grow them in MI ... z5 ... and i dont think i have seen them at hidden lakes ...

does junkie grow them in WI>?

ken

Thanks to you both. Ken - I am in New York, about 70 miles north of NYC.

i hope junkie comes back and answers ...

do you know of any locally???

ken

Yes, they grow here.

tj

wonder why i failed with the 2 or 3 i killed.... thought it was at the infancy of my learning curve ....

micro climate??? ..... i bet you dont get the howling winter winds i get...

ken

ken, my daughter (in Cambridge, Ont Zone 5b) has a 4-5' Wintergreen for a number of years now. It didn't suffer any winter damage even in the last two horrible winters with prolonged extremely cold temperature even though it is above snow cover. It is protected on the south by her house and the north by a couple of mature tall Picea pungens. So you are right; micro climate. It appeared to me that it can withstand extremely cold temperature as long as no excessive punishing winter sun and wind. I believe I saw a big specimen in front of the Montreal Botanical Garden building, but not sure it survived the last two winters.

You are correct, Ken, in that I do not get the howling winds but mine made it through the past two harsh winters without missing a beat. It saw temps of around -20F and a few long stretches of -15F or so at night.

tj

All I have to say is that I think this is the one where somebody posted somewhere about their comparatively small example being floppy - and then soon afterward I happened to see at a nursery a block of the cultivar near a block of stock labeled simply as the species and there was an obvious difference, the clones of the named form looking like they had been drinking. Both sets had tops maybe 2 1/2-3 ft. tall or more, with not a one of the selection having a firm-looking, straight trunk.

Point being yours - if it shows any signs of this same behavior - may need some kind of protection against being pushed down by snow, for instance.

At least in the early years.