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Pin Oak dappled sun?

I planted this pin oak today in an area that gets dappled sun through the day. There's always at least a few leaves getting sun through the whole day and a few moments of full direct sun. There is a high canopy of old growth trees above with large gaps where houses are. Soil is acidic and consistently moist.

With that general situation, particularly the light pattern, do you think it will survive/thrive or should I move it? I have read that pin oak are shade intolerant, but I assume that refers to full shade. I have no experience with Pin Oak.


THANK YOU!

Comments (10)

  • 11 years ago

    Seems like too much shade IMO, to get a thriving tree. A beech, sugar maple or hemlock maybe, but not an oak.

  • 11 years ago

    Fair enough. Will it still survive and perhaps take on a more "natural" look? I don't mind if it's leggy and sparse as long as it's healthy and grows each year.


    The natural look works quite well in this neighborhood and we are surrounded by oaks. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!

  • 11 years ago

    How much direct sun does it get? If there's a few hrs of overhead sun, the tree should survive OK, but never prosper.

  • 11 years ago

    note survive.. or thrive ...


    not many plants die from shade... short of a dark grotto ... and most oak trees start as acorns under the canopy of momma.. in the wild ...


    but thrive is the real question .. and that is left for you to find out ...


    one might ask.. with all that shade ... why you need more???

  • 11 years ago

    It will get more overhead sun during peak growth season (May-July) when the sun is higher, so it might be fine, although it will be tall and skinny.

  • 11 years ago
    Thanks! Update - I am moving it to a sunnier spot and putting a little leaf linden "green spire" in its place. They are more tolerant of shade and won't grow as large.

    I am using this to block the view of the neighbors ((behind me in picture ) who are about 20ft up a hill.

    Any experience in part shade with tilia cordata greenspire?
  • 11 years ago

    you can kill those things they grow wild myself I wouldnt reccomend that tree but it all depends on persoanl preference

  • 11 years ago

    Well the Greenspire's aren't native...you're thinking of tilia americana (american basswood/linden). Greenspire is tilia cordata...I think european. Anyway, we have a few american basswoods on my property and I love the leaves and the privacy they create. I find greenspire lindens smaller leaves even more attractive and it's size and shade tolerance suit the location better than that oak tree. Plus I got it half off at the local garden center's fall sale! lol


  • 11 years ago

    It's true, lindens (basswoods) are indeed pretty shade tolerant - certainly more so than oaks.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    A large tree in that spot is going to fill up the entire space and then some - how far is this from your house?

    Also the summer flowers of lindens often have a narcotic effect on bees which then end up crawling around on the ground and everything else under or near the tree during bloom time.

    Generally for blocking unwanted views with planting the most effective response is groupings of dense-growing evergreen plants such as conifers (in cold climates, otherwise broad-leaved evergreens) rather than individual, large deciduous specimen trees such as oaks and lindens.

    In either case you are going to be waiting perhaps many years for the plantings to get big enough to provide the desired relief - only architectural solutions such as fencing, walls, arbors etc. (or starting with very large hedge plants, packed together closely) can quickly block out views.