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How often do you change gritty mix?

11 years ago

While checking my plants this morning, I noticed that a jade has wrinkly leaves. It has been this way for a few days and watering did not help. It is outside in full sun all year and potted in gritty mix of perlite, Napa oil dry and bark.

It has been about 2 years since a repot, so I figured it was time while I look at the roots. Here's what I found - dessicated roots (that pile at the top) and little to no bark left.

I haven't gotten all the dead roots off of the plant, yet. They are literally falling off. Here's a close up view.

The plant has been doing rather well until just recently. So maybe I have caught this in time.

I guess my question is - should I be using the bark in my mix? Is it decaying faster during our wet summers and I just need to repot more often? Or is 2 years about right?

The bark used above was chopped orchid bark. Lately I have been using Repti-bark. Not sure that makes a difference. I prefer granite to perlite, but I use which ever I can get.

Comments (10)

  • 11 years ago

    Here is a picture of the two different barks. Miracle Gro orchid bark is on the left and the Repti-bark is on the right.

    Frankly, I don't think my early mixes were done well, probably not sifted well. But they were certainly an improvement over trying to cut soil with perlite. My summers are just too wet for any mix that holds water.

  • 11 years ago

    Depending on the bark, 2 years sounds about right in Florida. Orchiata lasts longer than the usual orchid bark, so you might get another year out of it.

    Crenda 10A SW FL thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 11 years ago

    2 years in Florida is like 4 seasons in New York.

    Crenda 10A SW FL thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 11 years ago

    Thank you, Nil. I knew it wouldn't last forever, but I didn't expect it to all be decayed. Naive of me, I guess. The Repti-bark seems to be holding up well so far.

  • 11 years ago

    I wonder if you could still sift the mix you have and just add what is needed... anyone?


    Crenda 10A SW FL thanked deva33 Z8 Atlanta
  • 11 years ago

    Kevin

    Yes, I use as you mentioned - no 'secret' ratios. Mostly equal amounts of grit, turface and perlite. Sometimes I increase amount of turface (if wanting little more water retention), but only by approx. 10% since I find it does retain more water. For plants like schlumbergera, I add just a little soil/coco coir. I stopped using bark (I have few pots with little bark in the mix, but def. not 30%) since I have hard time to find it small enough. Repti bark seems to last longer, but if one has many plants it gets too pricey.

    I have re-used gritty mix: dumped it into collander, washed well with hot water+little bleach, rinse well. Very small particles washed out (I dump that all on compost heap); grit-turface-perlite get washed and rinsed. I add whatever is necessary and use again. So far so good.

    Rina

    Crenda 10A SW FL thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Yes, the pine bark can decompose fairly rapidly in sizes that small since they have already started to compose when using them, and that is why I use the Fir Bark or Orchiata..

    I have found that over time, it can become hard if you are using much smaller pieces not allowing the roots to get moisture properly which will desiccate them. I just watered my jades in my almost 3 year old gritty mix, and then a day later did a re pot..The roots were bone dry in most places while some of the mix was wet. IT became hard and compacted..The roots filled the pot.

    I had to break up the root ball noticing the center of my jades roots were bone dry, and use a fresh mix,...2-3 years even up here in New England with Orchid not composted fir bark and about 2 years with the pine bark decomposed ones..

    Crenda 10A SW FL thanked myermike_1micha
  • 11 years ago

    Thanks, everyone! My mistake was forgetting that hot wet weather is quite conducive to making things decay. And I heard folks say that gritty lasted them 4-5 years. Those folks didn't have my weather. Since everything in SW Florida rots, rusts or mildews, I'll have to be more vigilant!

    Rina, I think I'll give your bark-less mix a try, too!

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Crenda

    Just remember that with your temps you may have to water more often.

    I found it really good for me - plants are outside (when temps are high enough); I don't have to worry much about rain as everything drains well. This past 'outdoors season', I think I watered maybe 2-3x as we had enough rain for succulents. On couple of occasions I suspended plastic sheet over the plants, since it was raining for few days non stop, and quite heavy. But I worried more about some other plants and few cacti I have, not really jades. And since I didn't really water, they didn't get any fertilizer - I know many fertilize their succulents regularly.

    Rina

    Crenda 10A SW FL thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a