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Reinforcing kitchen cabinet drawer bottoms: how to?

10 years ago

Our drawer boxes are 3/4" hardwood sides, dovetailed; but the bottoms are only 1/4" (captive on all four sides). I'm concerned that over time, the bottoms will bow. Previous posters have suggested inserting/adhering another bottom piece to create a thicker bottom, but that impacts interior storage -- plus, it increases the weight the glides will bear.



My KD originally thought the manufacturer would routinely reinforce bottoms beyond a certain width, but that turned out not to be the case. The installer did agree to retrofit supports beneath three of our widest (36"), deepest drawers.



These cross bars certainly feel sturdy enough -- tacked at the ends. DH and I would like to similarly reinforce most of our other drawers this weekend. The above wood pieces aren't glued down, so I'm wondering: for similar width drawers, can we get away with two reinforcing pieces, attached to the drawer box at the ends AND glued to the drawer bottom? Should we stick with hardwood reinforcers? I don't know if a soft pine might also bow over time.


Appreciate the guidance!

Comments (12)

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    I've heard of and seen many cabinet problems over the years, but bowing drawer bottoms has never been one.

    javiwa thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 10 years ago

    1/4" ply dadoed into the box should hold anything you want without need for reinforcement. It's really really hard to get 70 lbs shoved into even a 36" drawer unless it's all cast iron. Storing all of your cast iron in a single drawer wouldn't be prudent. Split it up.

    javiwa thanked User
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks to you both. I could be over thinking this, but all the standard cliches are bouncing around my head: an ounce of prevention yada-yada, better safe than sorry, protecting one's investment, etc. It's an easy enough project for us to take on, so why the heck not?! :)

  • 10 years ago

    Our last house had really bad cabinets that did exactly what you fear-- the bottoms bowed and pulled the plywood bottoms out of the dados. It didn't help that the sides were assembled with butt joints and nails, so the corners failed as well. (Yours are not that bad!). My solution was to build new drawer boxes, which over time I did for all but the smallest drawers. Gluing a 1/2" piece of solid lumber across the bottoms of your larger drawers could certainly help stiffen them up. Probably not going to be a problem for drawers under ~22 in.

    javiwa thanked rwiegand
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, rwiegand. We'll be getting to work, then, as I have only one stack under 22". ;)

  • 10 years ago

    Sorry I saw this a little late, but I have some wide and moderately deep drawers that have not bowed. I have one with lots of cast iron and another with lots of jars and bags of flour, sugar and liquids etc. They are both very heavily loaded. The larger drawer actually fell from insufficient anchoring of the rails, but again, the bottom did not bow. I just reattached the rails with more screws and all is well.

    javiwa thanked chas045
  • 10 years ago

    javiwa: good question; I probably shouldn't have posted originally as I didn't check and now see that my bottoms are ~3/4" melamine or similar and in addition are attached to metal drawer sides with ~3/4" bottom flange. They Are custom cabinets, but those metal sides look a little cheezy but they hold up great. I really had (and still have) that one drawer vastly over loaded.

    javiwa thanked chas045
  • 10 years ago

    Good to know, chas -- thanks again. 3/4" is hefty, I think, even if you're talking melamine/particle board (?).

  • 10 years ago

    Yes. Sorry, I should have been more clear. I am no expert on manufactured materials but am reasonably sure that melamine is much weaker than plywood. But I WAS attempting to indicate that the large thickness clearly overcame that weakness and in addition, the bottom was screwed to the metal side rails, preventing unlikely flex from occuring anyway.

    Since, I'm still typing, I would like to point out that it is a big drawer; it is 33" by 22" so it can hold a lot of weight.

    javiwa thanked chas045
  • 10 years ago

    An easy fix would be to attach a piece of wood from side to side under the drawer...something maybe 2-1/2'' wide and the thickness of the lip on the bottom side. Spread wood glue on the reinforcing piece and the underside of the drawer and then use 3-4 countersunk screws going from the top side of the drawer bottom into the support piece. After the glue dries you won't have any worries.

    javiwa thanked kudzu9
  • 10 years ago

    Looking again at your pictures, I suspect you're going to be OK. Our drawers that failed had bottoms that weren't dadoed into the back of the drawer, instead they were slid into the the dados in the sides and front and then stapled to the bottom edge of the drawer backs. It looks like you have a dado all the way around that will fully support the bottom. I'd suggest just using them as they are and reinforcing only if/when you start to see signs of failure.