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Plants are sick

10 years ago
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My plants look sick and I need a little help in knowing why and what to do. I have a lot of questions.

Are they over or underwatered? Too much or too little sun? How can you tell if a plant is sick and can still get better or if it's dead or dying already?

Echeveria Black Prince: Outer leaves are curling up. Haven't watered this yet.

Kalanchoe Humilis or "Desert Surprise": Outer leaves are soft, wrinkly, and drooping. Watered this last week or last, last week but not thoroughly.


And this echeveria (???) that I beheaded: The stem now has a tiny bud on it (not seen in picture) but the rosette looks like it's drying out. The rosette was out of the soil for a week after I cut the plant.

This cactus that I was trying to save from the early stages of root rot and cut in half: The cut part seems to have black spots and some of the "tubes" are shrivelled. Is it time to throw this away?

For the cactus below, is this normal or is this root rot? How can you tell if it's the start of root rot for cacti? I threw out the zebra cactus of mine this morning because it had become dark green all over and had become mush. By mush I mean that the plant was collapsing and if you pulled the leaves, you could see that the center was brown and looked slimy. It was really gross.

And finally, what do people mean when they "mist" their succulents? Do the plants get wet or do they just spray the soil? I read that you should avoid getting the plant itself wet and to just water the soil.

Comments (5)

  • 10 years ago

    Geela/dontcarebear -- I think you changed your username or something.. but I replied to your previous post here before. Is this the same E Black Prince we are seeing? If it is then what happened to all the leaves that were lost?

    Did they curled and turned mushy/jelly? Or did they curled and dried up?
    If it's the latter than it might mean your plant still stands a chance..

    If it's jellyish, you are still overwatering- or your soil is too water retentive and still holding too much water.

    My advise would be:

    1) Remove those top soil dressing, pretty as it looks, you are still not at the level of knowing your plant's watering needs

    2) Is that a plastic pot or clay? Do it have drainage holes? If it's plastic, it will hold water for a longer time compared to clay. Even glazed clay pots hold moisture for quite some time.

    3) It also seems your pot is a little too big for the plant. After you removed the topsoil (white stones), dip your finger into the soil to test for wetness, if it's still wet change that means you are not underwatering and it is your priority to dry it as soon as possible for the plant. I usually place it beside a mini fan to speed up the drying process, or if you have a windy window, that works too.

    4) When you re-potted, did you take pictures of the roots? How were they looking? A little bit? A big ball of white healthy roots? Or clumpy and soggy? If there is little roots, chances are your plant is very weak and might not make it.

    5) The crown of your plant seems fine, Is it sturdy? The new green color are signs of new growth. The leaves only turned to a dark shade of brown when it's placed under alot of sun. How much light are you giving it?

    Sometimes, especially echeverias lose their leaves to regenerate their roots or cope with stress after re-potting. It's ok to under water a little, but not to completely NOT water at all. Answering those questions above might help me help you a little..

    And always water till you see water drains through the holes.. You can do it slowly.. That way you know water reaches the bottom of the pot and don't just gather at the top layer, causing rot to the buried stem.


    For the beheaded rosette, absolutely no water until you see roots! It might completely dry out but your chances are still better if you over water and lose it to rot. If you know your soil in it is COMPLETELY DRY - i repeat only completely dry... dip the pot onto a shallow tray of water to ensure some moisture in the bottom to encourage humidity for the roots.

    You can resume watering your beheaded stem when you see new buds. Only do so when the mix is completely dry too.


    Your cacti seems fine to me, I don't see what's the concern. You have to stop lifting your plant up and let it do it's thing. Is the base soft? If it's firm, it's fine. Do not water it until you know there is roots growing. And make sure you provide bright shade and an airy environment.


    Sorry to hear about your zebra cactus, is the one showing in the last pic?


    If you know you live in a humid climate, I best suggest you to alter your soil, especially for your cacti. Read on all the resources I had provided you, and if you are in a tight budget or limited resources, a quick fix is add more perlite into your existing soil. It seems 1-1 euqal parts perlite and soil is still too water retentive. I usually would only advise to keep soil/peat under 10/20% of the mix, unless you know what you are doing..


    I personally don't mist succulents. Water droplets on the leaves do nothing to the plant, they only take water through roots. And it's usually roots from the bottom most layer that does all the absorption work. This is why drainage holes in pots are so important!

    Bernard

    donotcarebear thanked bernardyjh
  • 10 years ago

    And Geela, please be patient.. I noticed you posted this thread 3 times on the same thing! I'm sure many members here are very welcoming to help you with your plants, but you also have to understand that it takes time to learn your problems and offer you solutions.

    Please in the mean time if you have more unanswered queries, spend the time reading up on soil, as there are a wealth of information to learn here. You can make notes and list them all at the same time, and we are pleased to answer them for you.

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Bernard,


    Not sure why my name appeared instead of my username but anyway...


    Yes, it's the same echeveria. I removed the leaves because all of them were damaged and I didn't want to attract pests. Right now, they seem to be curled and dried up. My pots are plastic and they have two small drainage holes but I haven't watered them yet since I'm afraid I'll over water again.


    In my previous post, you guys told me that I should get pots with really good drainage but I'm afraid I might end up repotting too often and stress the plants out or something.


    I didn't take pictures of the roots when I repotted the echeveria but I don't remember getting worried when I saw the roots.


    The room they're in is bright during the day and the afternoon sun does get in but I'm not sure about how long they are directly "hit" by it.


    For the round cactus, the pot fell over and then I saw the bottom and got worried because my very first cactus, the one I cut in half, had a different color at the bottom and I was told that it was the start of root rot.


    Another question, how long before cut cacti and beheaded rosettes grow roots? And leaf cuttings? I kept a lot of the echeveria's leaves and a lot of leaves from the beheaded plant. I think it's been two weeks or more but there aren't any roots and the leaves haven't shriveled up yet. Should the leaves be on moist or completely dry soil?


    From what I gather, it seems like the only thing I really need to learn is how to leave my plants alone. Haha!


    Thank you so much for answsering all of my questions(including the old ones)! I really appreciate it.


    P.S. Are you saveyoursucculents on Tumblr?


  • 10 years ago

    Geela, do not remove leaves until they are completely dry.. That's what they do to regenerate themselves - they cannibalized their outer leaves and gets reabsorbed as food for the new leaves in the center. By removing the outer leaves without completely drying up yet, you are exhausting your plant!

    Stick your finger in the soil.. Is it wet? If it is don't water. If it's not, water until you see water drains, and put it near an airy window.

    You don't need to repot if you can control your watering to not rot the plant.

    What direction is your window facing? If it's a south window it should be fine. But for now, just bright light will be sufficient. But air flow is very important!

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I haven't' started any blogs yet.. I might! If i have time..

    donotcarebear thanked bernardyjh
  • 10 years ago

    Hi Bernard, the echeveria's soil is dry. I watered it like you said. Thank you very much for all the help!