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Help Me Please

10 years ago

Hello, I have not been on in about 18 mobths or longer. Reasons death in family, moved cities and my huge problem which I need help for.


We bought this old house 86 years old, solid brick and sandstone but needs massive amounts of immediate energy savings and water issues repairs as well, as drainage, plumbing, electrical, walls, steps, basement, attic insulation, chimney, gate, driveway, Windows, repaint, replaster, kitchen, flooring etc. We moved in March 2015.

I'm overwhelmed with the utter chaos, the cost of labor and the enormous material cost which we have a small budget to tend to urgent things. We gave not unpacked yet because everything is in shambles.


I simply do not know how or where to begin and many things we must venture to do ourselves. Can I have help as to how to tackle this monster madness?

Specifics, 3 300 Sq feet, 3 full bath, 2 half bath, 6 bedrooms, 3 story, traditional german sandstone house. I am literally going Insane. I just do not know how or where to really prioritize , let me see if I have a photo. Ok that's is DHL cleaning the roof from leaves. We have that nightmare of a Linde Tree that will cost thousands to remove.

Comments (15)

  • 10 years ago

    First the things that make HOLES, then the things that FIX holes, then the things that make it pretty.

    1 - Water issues ... Roof and any leaks around windows or porches. Because unless you have a dry house, nothing else matters. Drainage if it affects the house.

    Have vent pipes installed when you have the roof done.

    Chimney repairs might go here
    2 -Plumbing and electrical upgrades ( they make holes)

    3 - Replaster ... after you have done plumbing and wiring and any molding removal or window changes.

    INSULATION: only after you are SURE you are through with
    the attic for wiring and plumbing and vents. they chareg extra if they
    have to deal with insulation.
    You can get CHEAP energy saving
    by that plastic window film. Looks ugly as sin, but it saves money and
    makes you more comfortable.


    When you say "walls" what's wrong with them?

    What is the problem with the basement?

    What is the problem with the steps?

    What is the problem with the chimney?

    What is the problem with the driveway? (I'd put it very low on the list)

    What is the problem with the kitchen?

    What is the problem with the flooring?


    More Pictures would help.

  • 10 years ago

    My thoughts here are that you have a long road ahead of you - so if you are overwhelmed before even starting on a massive old home reno perhaps step back and ask yourself if this is a journey you should even take? Consider instead the alternate: downsizing to a smaller home that doesn't daunt you as this one does. I'm not a therapist, but I sense a level of anxiety that is well beyond run-of-the-mill level - if this project paralyses you as you've described, get out now before your health starts to suffer. Best of luck.

  • 10 years ago

    Pips,go apprentic with Rusty to get a feel for these type projects. OMG,a country church and a jail house,,,,,,,,underway at the same time? That's a load.

  • 10 years ago

    First, make sure that the roof is in good shape. Cosmetically, not the issue, just be sure there are no leaks. Make sure gutters & downspouts direct water away from the building.

    I agree with ingeorgia...make a couple rooms your havens for now. Preferably your bedroom & a sitting room.

    You'll be amazed at the level of "mess" you can actually live with while you're fixing it up. Couple things I cannot stress enough...

    1...Live in your place for at least a year before making any changes that are irreversible. (removing walls, painting original woodwork, removing original windows)

    2...Don't listen to the big box sales people. They will not direct you correctly on your journey. They're great for tools & supplies...but not anything that will be permanently connected to your home, like lighting or any fixtures for the kitchen & bath like sinks & toilets & such.

    Just sit back & listen to what the house tells you...and trust me, it will!!

  • 10 years ago

    Oh....I forgot...more pics please!!!

    Inside, to be more specific!! :0)

  • 10 years ago

    Great advice lazy_gardens! I'm saving to reference.

    Pipsqueaky, what a charming home! I can see why you bought it, and also see why you are overwhelmed. I'd make a nice big list and sort it all out in a notebook. Sometimes getting it down on paper and out of your head offers some relief.

  • 10 years ago
    In an old home, you are so tempted to prettify at the outset, but take it from me-- deal with roof, electric, HVAC and plumbing first, or you will have to redo the cosmetic stuff.
  • 10 years ago

    Lazy_gardens is right, deal with water issues first. Keep in mind that you don't have to do everything at once. Even if you had a lot of money, these things take time, and with a small budget you will be working on the place for months or years. So just relax and pace yourself.

    If the house is in Germany, keep in mind that most posters here are USA, so building practices and codes are different.

  • 10 years ago

    I definitely agree that TWO rooms need to be "prettified" even in you have to redo some of the cosmetics.

    Going in, shutting the door and pretending it's ALL DONE is a wonderful thing for your sanity.

  • 10 years ago

    I think I would hire an architect to help figure out an overall plan for the house, unless you are happy with its current plan. Think about how you want the house to work for you? Are there walls you want to move? Does the kitchen need to be gutted?

    Once you have a plan, tackle the important things first, keeping in mind the overall design plan that you will develop in the future. Electrical, plumbing, HVAC, roof and exterior are some important things to start with. Next, I would probably tackle kitchen. Make a plan and take your time as budget allows. You will really be comforted knowing that the guts are in place before you start making the house pretty. I did not want to pay for new HVAC system in my house, but I can tell you I am so thankful I did now.

    I am going through this with a 4000 sq. ft. home I bought four years ago. I did the HVAC, electrical, windows, doors, drywall, interior painting, and kitchen first. I also did the flooring and a guest bath which was a mistake and will have to be redone. I made the master bath useable with things off craigslist, as I knew in the future I would want to do something with it, but I didnt know what. 2 yrs. into it, I put on a new roof. Three years into it, I re-stuccoed the exterior. Last year I did the landscaping. Now I am adding a new master bedroom/bath and moving a bathroom. Within a year, I hope to have all 4 guest baths done and new flooring throughout the house.

    BTW your house is really beautiful. The fact that you have lived in the house should be a plus, since this may have helped you figure out how you the house to work for you. I made the mistake of jumping in before I had moved in. Now I will have to tear out a bathroom I redid.

    Do you need to get rid of that beautiful gorgeous tree?

    You want the house to be made safe and secure first, with functioning HVAC, electrical, plumbing and roof. Possibly hire an architect to help come up with a functional plan for the house Start there.

  • 10 years ago

    Are you in Germany?

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Since it seems as though most of
    your confusion is coming from the decision of where to start, I would suggest that
    you reach out to a few architects. Have the architects come to your home and
    write a proposal. This will help to professionally assess the current condition
    of your home.

    From this, you can then develop a “master
    plan” for what the ultimate goal is as of updating the condition of your
    home. Once you have a plan you can then begin to conquer one project at a time
    to the pace of your budget.

  • 10 years ago

    Notebook all the way. One section for each room/roof/basement/exterior/landscaping. Then after you have it sorted you can more easily see what is an emergency, what needs to be done soon and what you can do one room at a time. The volume of projects you are looking at right now overwhelms ME and I'm not even involved! Small steps. The longest journey begins with the first step. We'll be here. Keep us posted.

  • 10 years ago

    not the OP but I wanted to thank all the contributors for their helpful comments. Going through the same process right now, and after doing everything wrong thus far-- it is good to feel like we are not alone here and to have some guidance. My place is 306 years old, but full of 1960s-1980s poor quality renovations that need to all come out.