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New Home Electrical/ Low Voltage Ideas

Hey all,


We're currently building a spec home from a major builder. I've been reading through everything I can find and have gotten some great ideas for add ons to the house as far as wiring goes. Most of the threads are old however, and I was looking if anyone has any new ideas we should consider.

Here are some of the current special plans

Washer dryer hookup for master closet

Pendant lights over wet bars

Under cabinet lights

Dedicated circuits in garages

Ceiling fans in bedrooms plus recessed

Switch rope lighting in master tray

Pantry and closet outlets

Conduit to attic

Conduit to windows for later Smart blind wiring

4 outside dual floodlights

Heated bathroom and laundry floors

Under eave outlets

Under window outlets for candles

Patio spa hookup

Plug inside bathroom vanities

Instant hot water hookup by kitchen


Every possible tv location will have 1 or 2 coax, plus 2 to 4 cat6 depending on whicu room it is.

Aiming for distributed hdmi over cat6 from basement.

Nearly all rooms will have whole home audio controls and speakers.

Surround sound in master, family rm and basement.

Wall mounts for tablet controls of SmartThings

Wireless security

Cat6 to security cameras

Coax pulled to attic for sattelite if needed

Central vac

Sprinkler system outside

Conduit under driveway and sidewalk

Gas and water hookup to deck for kitchen

Hose on deck.


Again the idea will be control with smartthings. All equipment located in basement.


Anything neat I'm missing out on?


Thanks!




Comments (13)

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Low-voltage entry and garden lighting controlled with a timer.

  • 10 years ago

    Absolutely go the "hide a hose" route for central vac system!!!

  • 10 years ago

    Hardwire all security doors and windows.

    Outlet near fireplace mantle for decoration.

    Outlet on both sides of front porch and inside door for decorations.

    Ditch rope lighting in master tray for LED strip lighting.

    Stair lighting?? LED

    Conduit from attic to basement/crawl

    Make sure boxes are plastic and large enough for smart switches and signal to get out.




  • 10 years ago

    Loving the ideas. Why do you pick hardwired security?

  • 10 years ago

    Security. wireless is vulnerable and dependent on batteries It's cheap and why the box store boys sell it. Hard wire it. If you are building, there is no reason to go wireless when walls are open

  • 10 years ago

    If you plan to hardwire security on the windows make sure to check if/how that might impact your window warranty.

  • 10 years ago

    Are hardwired sensors compatible with any of the newer systems like Frontpoint or even a self managed system like SmartThings?

  • 10 years ago

    Why do you recommend plastic outlet or switch boxes? We always see metal boxes around here in new builds (even high end ones). Please let me know the advantages of plastic.

    At some point I would like to add smart switches (lighting controls). I want to be sure before closing up the walls, I have planned for future adding of lighting controls. What do I need to put in place to add it later? I would add it now, but they are expensive.

    Carol


  • 10 years ago

    Here is a link to a wiring guide for LV wiring. It is an excellent reference to wire types, quality (not all CAT5/6 is the same) as well as tip for future proofing.


    Wiring your new house 101

    What I plan on doing is pulling wire EVERYWHERE while the walls are open. Wires for future:

    Blinds, Tray ceiling LEDs, under counter LED, Baseboard LED, TV, Network, Audio, Alarm, Surveillance cameras, etc.

    Once we are in the house, I can take time to connect things to the wires. Smart switches can replace existing switches later on. Motorized blinds can be installed and connected to a central panel to close at sunset and open at sunrise (based on day of the year).

    The Guide offers great tips to avoid ever using an extension cord.

    Here is an excerpt

    • Make sure you have a neutral
      at all switch locations. Most
      high-quality switches require a neutral.
    • Always use deep electrical boxes for outlets and
      switches. Most of the remote
      controlled switches are larger than their non-remote counterparts. You will need the extra room. An alternative to deep boxes is to
      install larger (4”x4”) square boxes, and then install a single-gang-mud
      ring.
    • If you plan
      on using RF switches in the future, such as Z-wave, or ZigBee, try to go
      with non-metallic boxes, since metal ones could interfere with reception.


    --Russ


  • 10 years ago

    Thank you Russ for this helpful info. I will download the link tomorrow. I find it hard to find information on low voltage wiring. So it seems from your advice the deep boxes and plastic boxes are very important for wireless lighting controls (so glad to know that now). What if you are able to hard wire for lighting controls (because your walls are wide open). Would you still recommend the deep and plastic boxes I was thinking about the wired system by Centralite or perhaps Lutron (the former being less expensive). We just have to figure out how to wire the house now to allow the switch over to hard wired lighting controls later.

    Carol

  • 10 years ago

    There are lots of technologies:

    X10, Insteon, Z-wave, UPB. Most of these use some form of wireless technology.


    I'm not sure I'd want to do a hardwired system.

    You really need to plan really well. If you have good vision to know where you want controls and remote switches, I guess it has benefits.

    I don't expect to know how we will use lighting controls until we are living in the house. Do I want to be able to turn lights off from my smartphone in bed. Dim them. Close the garage door. All questions I think you have to be living in the house to learn the answer.

    I plan on doing standard switches and replace them later with smart switches and controls.

    Hardwiring also binds you to that company.

    Our family got an Amazon Echo for Christmas. This thing has great home automation possibilities. It's a voice activated device (similar to smartphone Siri) that can be connected to a smart home. Say "Alexa, turn living room lights on" and voila they are turned on.

    Home automation can be overwhelming. So many possibilities and decisions.

    My plan is to pull wire and figure it out later. CAT5 is cheap by the box. Pull plenty of cable. A cable to a blank plate for a future audio distribution control or alarm panel. Pull speaker wire to each room ceiling, mark it and let sheetrockers do their thing and I can cut speakers later.

    Once the house is built and we are living in it, I'll research switches and controllers and pick a technology and replace the switches.

    Read that document. It has LOTS of ideas. Such as running a dedicated circuit to a home theatre or an exercise room to power treadmills etc.

    eg:


    Interesting Electrical Options


    These
    are items that you might want to consider in preparation for future
    projects. Some are not really HA/HT
    related, but just nice to have. Of
    course, making your home more enjoyable is the reason for HA, so maybe they are
    HA related.

    • Holiday
      lighting
    • Put switched
      outlets under the eaves and in a few places at ground level around the
      outside of the house for decoration.
    • If you have a
      large Christmas tree, or use lots of lights, consider a dedicated circuit
      for it. If you have a large room,
      also consider putting receptacles in the middle in the floor. These can provide power for a tree or
      lamps in the middle of the room, without having to run extension cords.
    • Make sure
      there is an outlet (preferably switched) near the front door for a wreath,
      or similar lighted options.
    • Be sure to
      include spare outlets in attics for an ultrasonic pest repeller and
      such. It also allows you to plug in
      a fan when working up there.
    • Consider
      switched attic lighting, so when you go up there you can flip a switch and
      see.
    • Code requires
      a minimal number of outside outlets on the house. You might want to have an outlet on each
      side of the house so you don’t have to run an extension cord all over the
      place to power the hedge clippers.
    • If you plan
      on having security cameras, consider the power needs for the type of
      camera you intend to install. Some
      units require power at the end destination, while other will require it at
      the camera location.
    • Do you intend
      to have a fishpond, fountain, or other outside water attraction? You might need power for pumps, lights,
      etc. How about a birdbath
      heater? Note: There are extra code requirements
      whenever you mix water and electricity (or more accurately, whenever you
      DON’T want to mix them). Make sure
      you do things correctly.
    • If you plan
      to have decorative yard lighting (either LV or HV), you will need power
      for them, and some way to control them.
      If you plan one controlling them from a plug-in module, try to
      locate the module someplace protected from the elements.
    • If you have
      a larger yard, consider running power to other spots on the property. These additional outlets can be used for
      decorations, yard work, or someplace for the kids to plug in their boom
      box.
    • Plan for task lighting/floodlights outside. These lights should be mounted high on
      the sides of the house, and can be either halogen or regular
      spotlights. If you plan to control
      them remotely, make you stay within the switches power limits. Spotlights, especially halogens, add up
      quickly.
    • Look around
      for places that you MIGHT want electricity in the future, either for
      electrical appliances, or lighting. Some suggestions that require either a
      switch, or receptacle are;
      • Lighting for picture
        frames or artwork
      • Lighting for cabinets
        holding collectables
      • Bannister lights
      • In the kitchen
        • * Under cabinet

    lighting
    * In cabinet lighting
    * Above cabinet
    lighting
    * Kick-space lighting
    * Decorations
    * Do you want a fan
    over the kitchen table?

    • On the deck/patio
      • * Lights on/under the

    railing
    * Accent lighting
    * Task lighting over
    the grill
    * Decorations

    • In the bedroom
      • * Do you want a

    ceiling fan?
    * Up lighting in a
    tray ceiling
    * Task lighting around
    the mirror

    • In the living/great
      room
      • * An outlet near the

    fireplace mantle for decorations or lights
    * Spotlights on the
    mantle
    * If you have a
    “stone” chimney, consider putting lights on the ceiling, around a foot
    from the chimney. These lights
    will bring out the texture of the chimney
    * Ceiling fan(s)

    • Consider putting lights in the closets. There are in-expensive switches that can
      be put in the doorjambs that will automatically turn the light on and off
    • Depending on
      how much you plan on installing automation, you can wire the house without
      3-way (or 4-way, etc) switches.
      Then install the loads in out of the way locations and put
      multi-button remote control at the locations where you normally would have
      had switches. When you do this, it eliminates the "switch banks"
      that normally crop up around the doorways, especially exterior doors. Very
      versatile, and it removes a lot of visual clutter.
    • In some
      locations, increase the size of the box by one space (i.e. 1 single gang
      is replaced by a 2-gange, a 2-gange by a 2-gang, etc.). The extra space can be used for a
      multi-button remote control.
    • Plan for
      future LCD/Plasma installations. If
      you know where they would go, you should power for them now. Don’t forget the LV connections either.

    If it’s a large house, consider installing power
    for a high-speed hot water recycling pump, such as THIS (gothotwater.com). This will provide hot water


    --Russ




  • 10 years ago

    What an awesome post above, Russ. Thanks!

    Carol