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Pressure canning mixed ingredients for the longest time...

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I haven't been as active on this site since it switched from garden web to houzz, but I read all the posts and still consider this my go-to for reliable information. I avoid any sites that provide risky or questionable advice or recipes. I recently joined a facebook canning group that promotes safe canning methods. The various members often provide links to NCHFP in response to specific question and recommend only safe canning books. After reading a lot of posts, I've identified the folks who seem to provide good reliable advice and I've come to trust their advice and methods, much like the folks on here.

One thing I noticed is that a number of the folks who I'd come to consider trustworthy with advice and following safe canning procedures have routinely advised people to use the timing for the item that has the longest time when pressure canning a mixture of vegetables or a recipe that isn't a tested recipe.

I thought that was outdated advice, but when I began searching for answers, I found several extension sites advising that as well. I double checked publication dates and they are recent.

What is correct? I know not to can my own recipes, but if the rules allow you to can for the item with the longest time, isn't that pretty much the same thing as canning your own recipes? Isn't one of the reasons for the rule to follow the tested recipes is because different mixes can create density changes that weren't tested for?

I haven't responded to any of these posts. My first thought was to post a link explaining why it was an incorrect canning procedure, but then I found the extension sites with the instructions to do it that way.

Here is a quote from one of the extension sites...I couldn't link directly to the PDF file:

"When adding vegetables to tomatoes, you lower the acidity. Unless you use a research-tested recipe, tomato-vegetable mixtures MUST be processed in a pressure canner. Use directions for the vegetable in the mixture that has the longest processing time. Example: process pints of a tomato-whole kernel corn mixture for 55 minutes because corn takes longer to process than tomatoes." September 2013 newsletter. http://www.extension.umn.edu/food/

pqtex formerly Jill2761

Comments (6)

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for the explanation that it was more of a food quality issue than safety.


  • 10 years ago

    I should add the qualifier that the food will only be safe assuming the person chooses the right processing time (and many don't when using mixed vegetables).

    Using the example of tomatoes with corn, some assume since the jar is mostly tomatoes with only a little corn then they don't need the full corn processing time. That isn't correct. If it is a quart of tomatoes with only 2 tbls. of corn added it still needs the full corn processing time.

    Or what if it is a mix of tomatoes with beans and corn? Or potatoes and beans?

    Good examples of why that old guideline can be risky to use if the person is UNDER-informed.

    Dave

  • 10 years ago

    I don't follow the outdated guideline and only use the tested recipes, so I know I'm good to go. I was just so disappointed to see some bad recommendations on the other group just when I was beginning to trust them! It really bothers me to see newbies receiving information and advice that is questionable or risky, which is why I was trying to verify the information on this topic.

    One of my observations on the other site is that many of the canners--especially the new ones--don't bother to use a canning book at all...they just ask what the recipe is or how long to process something. I've been canning a few years now, and I still don't consider myself an
    expert and review the instructions each time I begin a session. I keep the canning recipe out and make sure I'm doing it right.

    Thanks for the input. It is appreciated.

    Jill

  • 10 years ago

    Updating this post...

    FYI, I just purchased the newest Ball Blue
    Book, 37th edition, which is dated 2014. I was reviewing the basic info on canning and thumbing through the pages and came across this information:

    On page 98 (the section for Meats,
    seafoods & vegetables), under "Good Things to Know", "combination
    recipes," Ball includes this statement:

    "The length of processing time
    for combination recipes must safely preserve the ingredient requiring
    the longest processing time. Follow individual recipe for ingredient
    preparation, jar size, and processing time."

    As Dave has mentioned
    before, when I asked about this, the results may not be optimal because
    some foods may be overprocessed by processing for another item that
    requires a longer time, but this information come from a reliable source, and I wanted to share it.

  • 9 years ago

    since i have canned 21 quarts of mixed vegetables this season ( as nchfp says, 90' PC. but i do 93' with cheap timers...tomatoes,squash, and green beans. ) and plan on adding it to soup, i'm not concerned if it's a bit mushy. i do have a question about using different vegetables. are onions considered a vegetable? they were not listed as exceptions , but i have not seen any non-pickle recipes where they were added except in small amounts. since i think they are related to garlic, i am a bit leery. i have, however, used other summer squash in lieu of zucchini. but since i've read that any immature squash can be labelled "summer", that doesn't mean they are all the same density. so i dice, not slice that.

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