It looks like a Viburnum.

thats what I thought, but I couldnt find anything that looks like itm maybe one of these: Viburnum rhytidophyllum

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Viburnum x rhytidophylloides

would a pic in the day time help??

ken

Or maybe 'Pragense.'

Leaves have the shape of leather-leaf viburnum. You can cut it back in spring and have it sprout new growth that fills back in a bit before fall - but the tall open habit is something it will always try to produce.

You should probably wear a mask and avoid having it rub on your skin if you decide to tackle it as it is covered in irritating hairs that become airborne as soon as you disturb it.

I like them tall and lanky and not stocky and shrubby, it is at the back of the property, my biggest question was whether it would take to typical pruning, ie. outward bud or chop to the ground and regrows new shoots. I like to shape things with some width and fullness at the top.

You guys have been great help with identifying this, thanks!