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NYC Spring 2016

10 years ago

I know it is a little early to kickstart sharing plants for the Spring season, but we were truly "blessed" by El Nino last week with gorgeous temps reaching as high as the 70s.

As a continuation from our summer thread last year, I'm back again at my favorite farmer's market at Union Sq.

Feast your eyes away!

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  • 10 years ago

    Oohhh, lucky you! The month-long flora-fauna exhibition in my place doesn't start until late April, but learning from past experience, I doubt they'll have many varieties of succulents.

    Btw, does anyone know the name of the plants in pic 1, the ones behind E. runyonii? Thanks.

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    I would love to stumble upon one of these one day, but Manhattan isn't somewhere I go very often. So I'm pretty much relegated to the big box stores. I want whatever that is in pic #12.

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    I like the dark green jade in pic 6.

    i know those lithops r big but $5 woo hee.

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    chuckerfly

    I believe that is one of the Euphorbias...

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    Amyoacid, I think we just got lucky. Half of these farmers aren't even close to NYC, I believe my fav nursery is about a 3 hour drive from Jersey, and the other vendor is a 2hr+ drive from Long Island. I guess the city's farmers market is probably very profitable that they'll go through the distance just to sell.

    Thanks for the ID Nic! I never would have thought that was an aeonium! I might make a return visit again this friday to see if they still stock this up.

    Todd - don't mean to tempt you! lol

    hpanna, ealdwood - If you guys like these lithops, they have them in stock at the brooklyn botanical garden gift shop. I think those are called L. aucampiae. If I remembered correctly, the BBG is very expensive - about $10-12 each. $5 aren't that bad for a healthy 3-4 years old lithop.

    Manuel - It's time! Even though it's a little cold this week, but it's still a great time to buy new plants.

    Chuckerfly - I hope you can find more C&S at your convention and hopefully share those pics with us too!

    cm05 - I think Rina is on the right track, initially I thought it was a Ming Thing.. maybe it's a monstrous version of a spices of Euphorbia


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    Bernard

    chuckerfly asked about what I think may be euphorbia.

    cm05 is asking about pic #12 - if I am correct, there are few different plants there: aloes, gasteria, crassula, kalanchoe luciae (?), euphorbias (red & yellow flowered), sedum morganianum, sedeveria (?), Graptoveria Fred Ives...

  • 10 years ago

    cm05, are you talking about the Crassula arborescens in the front of picture #12?

  • 10 years ago

    true true, my 2 yr old lithops are half the size of those. UGH I really wanted to visit the brooklyn botanical gardens and the new york botanical gardens (according to their plant finder, they have a ton of adromischus) but had to change plans. I was going to ask you for the exact address of this farmer's market but I really shouldn't be buying more plants...mehmeh.


    I was going to throw euphorbia suzannae out as an ID but i've looked closer and it's not right.


  • 10 years ago

    Lithops that size here are typically around $6+ CAD, but there is one greenhouse way outside the city here that sells them for just $3! It's hard to resist not going home with a handful...

    Always nice to see such a variety of succulents. =)

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    opps Rina, I got confused between chuckerfly qn and Cm's qn. My comment on the Ming thing/monstrous euphorbia was meant for chuckerfly.

    cm - I think the main plant in the center is an Echeveria Gigantea and Crassula Arborescens, also called the Silver Dollar Jade

    ealdwood - I think this particular species grow quite large. My last visit to Asia, I've seen aucampiae the size of my palm. Not saying I have big hands, but that's quite large for a single leaf mesemb. I just got my free membership from the BBG and they have a annual Spring sale coming next month, maybe if you get a chance to stop by, you should check that out.. I foresee this year as another early year for the Cherry Blossoms Blooming, so you might get lucky if you make it for the sale. I don't remember seeing alot of andro based on my recollection.. If you are looking for andro, I suggest you go to the upcoming CT show and look for Ken. He grows a ridiculous variety of rare andros, and also it's natural he charges on the higher side of $$. Their C&S exhibit were quite sad tbh, maybe because I was there during the heart of winter. Most lithops on display were dried to crisp, labels were all wrong. They seem to take a liking for the name euphoria on everything on the labels, even on an echeveria that was displayed.

    If you plan to visit this farmer's market, it's on 14st union sq park right off the subway, it's massive, they cover the perimeters of the park, you won't miss it. You don't need to buy plants per se, you can be a plant geek and admire them like me. Or check out the other local farms, they have a huge variety of flowers and produce. If you are into Orchids, they is a specialized Orchid grower that sets up shop selling rarer varieties from his mini van.

    Kevin - I think Lithops will always be a favorite among C&S growers. It's also the lure of newbies that can't/don't know how care for these plants (that mostly end up dying) that jacks up the prices for demand, reducing supply. Anyhow, if you are lucky, Home Depot sells them in 2 inch pots for only $2. I snapped up 4 the last time, killing 2 because I was lazy to repot them and left them in peat soil.

  • 10 years ago

    : D That's a nice tip- just look, admire, and sigh. Haha. Thanks bernard! Now I remember! Those were your pics from Singapore (and the other location), I just tried and failed to find the link (darn i thought I saved it somewhere). Those lithops were awesome. My eyes popped out for sure when I saw those.

    Ah sucks, guess I can't trust that plant finder. It's like the online IKEA stock prognosis, I check the succulent stock online and when I go to the store, there're just dying stuff. I read about Ken from an online article about CT's C&S show, sounds amazing!! Yes I heard about the price ranges.. seems like a SLOW growing bunch... from what people on this forum say..leaf a year? Yikes. I've seen pics of adromischus "trees" Can't fathom how long that took. (but they're so PLUMP and adorable)

    AH I've found the Union Square Park on google maps now, I knw NYC is suppose to be easy to navigate due to the grid system... So they're there Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.

    I couldn't find info on that Spring Plant Sale at the brooklyn botanical gardens. They have an annual sale on May 4 and May5, is that the one you were referring to? Do cherry blossoms last till May?

    Me thinks it's also time I spied around here in MA nurseries..Wish there were a botanical garden here with nice succulents..

  • 10 years ago

    Yea, those were really huge, almost the size of lily pads. I was really surprised when I saw them.

    Yea, cacti and especially succulents are really popular these days. Even for bbs here that are well stocked gets picked over after a day or two. Most shoppers usually buy these plants in clusters so they can make a succulent dish. The Ikea here in Brooklyn are perpetually not-stocked, even though it says they are available on the website.

    Thanks for sharing the article on Ken, he's a great guy, I learnt quite a bit chatting with him last fall at the MA show. Will you be going to the CT show next month? Be sure to say hi! I think I'm quite liberal with watering my plants, so they grow about 6-10 leaves since I bought them? Maybe it's considered fast for andro plants already. The leaves fall off very easily, so I always have trays and trays of cuttings growing.

    If you plan to stop by the farmers market, I'd recommend Fridays. I think thats the day both my fav vendors set up side by side, right in front of Starbucks towards 16th st.

    Yes! That's the one, they do it annually during Spring. I think only members get access or first dips on plants. Cherry Blossoms usually starts blooming when the weather gets warm. I heard they already started blooming in DC, you might be catching them towards the end of their blooming season if you stop by during May. Check the website again, they have alot of infor and events for the festival.

    Do you live near CT or MA? Not familiar with the nurseries there. The last time, I spoke to Nancy, she gave me a bunch of places to visit, but I forgot to write them down. Maybe she can pass you some pointers.


  • 10 years ago

    The CT show is next month?! Awesomeeee, I did check out their website (in the midst of winter) and remembered their show was far off.

    AH GEEZ. It's on April 2nd and April 3rd. No I'll be on vacation... Well if you do go, I'd love to see your pics! Can't believe my luck...gawwwrrrgh.

    I think I'll definitely plan for the spring plant sale at BBG on May 5th (hurhur guess you're going to the VIP members' day on May 4th). Thanks for sharing!!

    I live in MA, If I "see" nancy I'll ask! Thank you bernard!

    Some Massachusetts succulent sources:

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    Other than the BBSs, and IKEA, I go to:

    Mahoney's in Winchester, and Brighton (great for 2-3 inch pots of succulents, and huge selection of airplants especially in Winchester. Succulent arrangements as well but I don't buy those).

    Occasionally- Village Greens in Norwood (Really good quality for winter hardy succulents, echeverias, and the owner likes those life saver plants, the ones with the stinky flowers. Tad on the small selection in terms of types, but if you're a sempervivum or stinky flower plant person this place is heaven.).

    Volante Farms in Needham (huge echeveria specimens, but my first purchase had spider mites. Mwarghhh.)

    There are some boutique stores smack in the middle of Boston: Back Bay Florist, and Niche. I try not to go to these as I get sucked into buying small specimens but they usually have stuff when BBSs don't in the winter.

  • 10 years ago

    Ealdwood - YES! Apr 2. Bummer you can't make it. Everyone in the Northeast is talking about it.. I hope they also do a memorial for the late Dr Gerald.

    I had a word from a close friend who lived really close to the BBG, he told me the annual sale is more for annual typed plants, and the stuff they sell there are pretty common. Thought they have a small section just for succulents, but don't bang on your buck for the varieties. Anyhow I'm still gonna check it out! I'll let you know and report with pictures.

    Today I tried really hard to resist stopping by the farmers market, so I don't end up buying more plants. And another discouraging factor is my unlimited card ran out, and I didn't want to top up until the new week starts. lol

  • 10 years ago

    How lucky you are. Thanks for sharing

  • 10 years ago

    I happen to be going into the city today but now will be making a pit-stop to Union Square while I'm there. I am excited! Your pictures make it look so nice.

    Also since I see CT cactus and succulent show mentioned, I am thinking about going but it is a little over 2 hours drive for me (maybe 2.5). Is it really nice/worth going to?

  • 10 years ago

    http://ctcactusclub.com/vendorlist2016.aspx.

    I've vehicle traveled longer distances for C&S shows and even longer distances for a glimpse of a few collections. Leave earlier & please drive safe. It's worth the trip





  • 10 years ago

    Thank you for sharing that link. I am leaning towards going. Don't have plans for that day so why not! Hopefully it will be so neat that I will come back and post pictures here for others to oogle at!

  • 10 years ago

    Hey Folks! I'm back with more live report at my fav farmer's market. Just kidding, they were taken during my lunch hour. Just couldn't resist not posting these beautiful varieties of plants displayed as such affordable prices.

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    Great pics, they all look so yummy. Although, $12 for hybrid aloe? $10 for common aloe? That seems a bit expensive. I expect hobbyist to sell better quality for a lower price vs retail.

  • 10 years ago

    Omg haha love the delighted/smug expression. That's so lucky you can get there during your lunch break!!

    does anyone know what 20 is? That ripple Ovata jade pot in 27 looks interestinggg.

  • 10 years ago

    nametaken.. I think the vendors do mark up on the more recognizable plants to the general public. They also sell higher based on the pots sizing. I'm not sure if the pictures do the plants justice, but those aloes were huge!

    In all defense, I scored a crassula buddha temple for $2.50! Though it is in a tiny 2.5 inch pot, and like I said, they probably mark up the prices as the demands for them are higher.

    Ealdwood - Glad you enjoyed the pics, it's really hard to stop myself from not buying anything amidst the green forest.

    I have no clue on #20, but it definitely looks like a gasteraloe of sort, and I think #27 is not a ripple jade, it's a Crassula Arborescens.


  • 10 years ago

    Whaaatttt, did u post a pic of that Buddha temple already?

    thanks!! Arborescens silver dollar got it!

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    #20 = possibly Sanseveria cylindrica

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    I'll add to Rina's comment, I believe it's Sansevieria cylindrica var. patula 'Boncel'. I still don't get why people like the braided version as shown in pic 17, personally I like the regular natural shape, either growing upright or fan-shaped. Just a thought... ;p

    Ps. What's #30? A Kalanchoe?

  • 10 years ago

    I agree with Rina on 20.


  • 10 years ago

    Haha, thanks folks! I haven't grown any Sans before, so not familiar with that plant :D

  • 10 years ago

    chuckerfly - I believe the name of that Kalanchoe is Bryophyllum Fedtschenkoi, or Kalanchoe Fedtschenkoi.


  • 10 years ago

    We experienced a heavy down pour today :( Didn't really damped my spirit, just made my photos look so much more perky!

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    Happy Easter Weekend Everyone!!

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    Those gasterias in 32 look so cute. And still really attracted to those silver dollar jades, they look especially chubby in 35 pics.

    have fun at the CT C&S show!!! (Next weekend)

  • 10 years ago

    I went there today, but it must've been an off day. I didn't see quite as many plants as in your pics. When I look at the main pics you posted, it seems that some of those tents/vendors were missing today. It was a beautiful day, though, and the plants I did see were gorgeous. Will definitely go back.

    By the way, is t wrong that I really like those braided sansevierias? I feel guilty about admitting that I've always been drawn to them. I didn't buy them, because I just don't have anymore window space. When I'm home , I try to run some of my plants up to the roof for a few hours of sunlight, but I think I have reached my limit for now

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    22 and 23 are worth it just for the personal space on the subway.

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    Ealwood, I can save some cuttings for you, but I realized you won't be going to the show. Maybe next year then..

    Manuel, I'm sorry you didn't get to see more varieties. Were you there during the evening or earlier in the day? The best times to be there is obviously when they set up in the morning, you get first dips in all the plants.

    I believe succulents are very popular these days and they get snapped up by the second. So whenever I see something I love or catches my eye, I'll hold onto them first. Go through process of elimination then put them back.

    I don't see anything wrong with braided plants, it's just when one rot (touch wood) they spread really quickly, killing all the other plants along with it. This is why most growers here advised against them.

    Becareful taking indoor plants out to unsheltered roofs all at once, they burn within an hour or two under intense unprotected sunlight. I've learnt it the hard way. Even now when I build a shade cover for my plants in the patio, they too still get burnt when I don't acclimatized them to more light..

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    No worries. I went very late afternoon after it had stopped raining. I loved it so much that I went back on Saturday. I'll keep going back now just for the sheer enjoyment of it. I definitely have no more window space, so if I really feel I need to buy something there, I'll pass it off to my sister in Levittown. That way I can still enjoy it a couple of times a year !


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    Next time I go I will go very early. I did see people there snapping them up. Succulents HAVE become very popular, but for the wrong reasons. It's become a very popular "thing" to use them as arrangements, sorta like disposable flowers

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    Thank you for posting. I really enjoyed myself. Seems like I was just there myself. And I didn't spend any money looking.

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    Stush! Glad you enjoy the pics!! Spring is finally here!!

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    Wow I need to head to union square one of these days! Wish the weather would change finally. So dreary, for so long.

    I do frequent the small farmers market in brooklyn on carroll street between smith and court, but, its mostly produce with only a few plants available - I did find some great sunflowers last year at least.

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    rooftopbklyn (or is it Daniel? Sorry I'm really bad at remembering names), it's my favorite spring and summer spot to observe plants, but go early! The rarer ones usually get snagged first. There was once I found a variegated echeveria among the herd, so happy my eye caught it fast.

    There is another farmers market in front of the grand army plaza every Saturday, but I think the vendors there mostly sells herbs and annuals.

    Let me see if I can find photos, I'll post them later, there is an amazing hidden gem me and my partner found in Brooklyn, near the south end of prospect park. They have massive green houses and of course one stretch with amazing C&S varieties, but they were on the pricier side.


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    Prospect park? hmm. I know a place that is on the south side of greenwood cemetery that's sometimes good - I guess thats also near the south side of prospect park, and is definitely over priced - david shannon nursery. Interested in which place you you refer to. I have found shannon's selection hit and miss, and extremely pricey. But I do sometimes buy things there. Sometimes the price is marked, sometimes it depends who is at the counter :) it is definitely family operated.

    Yeah the grand army plaza farmers market is annuals and herbs, same as the one on carroll I previously mentioned. I got a huge lavender at grand army plaza one year.

    Daniel

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    Daniel, I think that's the place I was talking about. David Shannon Nursery, they are near a cemetery. If you walk into their backyard, you'll find 3-4 huge greenhouses. It's almost mind blowing! But $10-15 for a few small common echeveria species is quite hard for me to swallow even though I'm a avid supporter of local businesses.